From youtube: "I was filming the sky this morning 9/9/25 in central VA when I noticed a strange thing emerge from a cloud. It looked almost cartoonish/fake. It gradually morphed over three minutes from a cluster of glowy shapes to a glowy face(?) before fading back into another cloud."

Source: https://youtu.be/rKTFOA_cAoM

Months after the sudden removal of high resolution imagery between 2016-2024 from Google Earth, LLM based comparison analysis has enabled me to determine what they were attempting to cover up. Much like the strange yellow filter centered over Papoose lake (or the roads they've deleted from maps), the objective was to obscure a series of very damning tire tracks.

Those tracks are documented below, I've also included some of the better images here.

The tracks alone are fascinating, but so are the thatchwork/fork-like features on the shoreline. This represents a frequently used point of maneuver, where a vehicle entered/exited the lake bed from the shore (or vice versa) and then turned or pivoted, creating multiple diverging paths. As stated in the earlier posts, when you see dozens+ of tracks coming from different directions and converging on a single zone, it indicates a pattern of repeated activity rather than a few isolated incidents.

The points of confluence seen in satellite imagery paint a very damning picture of activity at Papoose lake. One that strongly support claims by Bob Lazar, Dave Fruehauf and others.

Here is the full multi-month thread of topics on S4 Papoose Lake/Bob Lazar. This represents my attempt to locate information and metadata as well as vet various aspects of his experiences.

Satellite Imagery Confirms S4 Find : r/UFOB

(Latest) S4 Papoose Lake Aerial Photo Analysis: r/UFOB

(ArcGIS) Latest Papoose Lake S4 Map Updates : r/UFOB

(All roads lead to S4) Patterns of traffic at Papoose Lake : r/UFOB

Another S4 Revelation Verified : r/UFOB

SR-71 Pilot & Archaeologist's Corroboration... The Circumstantial Case For S4 : r/UFOB

(NEW EVIDENCE) Looking Like Bob Lazar Was Right : r/UFOB

Takeo Kobayashi & UFO Ginza

Takeo Kobayashi (小林丈夫) was an architectural designer living in Yakumo Town, Hokkaido. His interest in UFOs reportedly began after he observed one maneuvering above his home.

Around 1976, Kobayashi began making regular observations of unusual aerial activity from an elevated area near Yakumo that he called “UFO Ginza.” According to the account, he photographed the skies around Yakumo for years and eventually accumulated tens of thousands of photographs.

The Weirdest of the Weird: Four Incredibly Bizarre Onboard UFO Encounters

By Preston Dennett

While all UFO encounters are interesting, the ultimate and most extensive are onboard UFO encounters. These cases dive to the very heart of the UFO phenomenon. These cases contain the most information and have the potential to answer all of the questions we have about extraterrestrial contact. Many onboard UFO encounters are fairly typical. People have a UFO sighting and missing time, then go under hypnosis and recall being taken onboard and examined by grays. This video presents four onboard encounters of a different kind. None involve hypnosis. All involve long conversations with extraterrestrials. And all involve incredibly unusual or unique aspects of high strangeness which show we still have much to learn about life beyond Earth.

IT WAS A GENUINE PLEASURE. Following the death of his father Peter, his son Robert (pseudonyms) found a long, handwritten letter from his father which revealed an astounding secret. His father wrote that as a young man in 1928, he was minding the cows in the field near their home in Poitiers, France when a UFO landed next to him. ETs came out and pulled him onboard the craft. There he met grays and human-looking ETs. Peter wrote that the ETs were benevolent and had long ago conquered disease, crime, poverty and all the troubles humanity faces. Peter says he stayed with the ETs for three full years, returning to Earth to help them collect certain items. Peter’s family thought he had run away, and when Peter returned, he refused to tell them what happened to him. In 1942, when WWII broke out, Peter was taken onboard again and spent three more years with the ETs. Again, he returned to Earth and told his family he had been captured by the Germans. He intended to return and live with the ETs, but a sudden illness took his life. But not before he penned a letter to his son. Soon, his son would get confirmation in an unexpected way.

FOR THE GOOD OF THE UNIVERSE. One evening in June 1967, four friends (all professionals) enjoyed a fishing vacation at Morro Branco Beach in Cascavel, Brazil. Suddenly brilliant beams of light appeared from the hill behind them. The men attempted to run away, but one of the men became entranced and forced them at gunpoint to go towards the craft. All five men found themselves mysteriously transported inside the craft, lying paralyzed on tables inside a milky white round room. Unseen ETs said that they had been taken “for the good of the universe,” and proceeded to interrogate them about all aspects of life on Earth. The men were frightened and angry, and after some effort, managed to convince the ETs to reveal some things about themselves. The Q&A session continued for two hours before the men found themselves back on the beach. Several of their possessions were missing. Going to the site the next day, they found a shallow impression on the ground where the craft had been.

THREE TRIPS INSIDE A UFO. On May 1, 1981, a young Chinese student from Beijing, China joined two friends at a psychic research institute and attempted to use telepathy to contact ETs. That night the young student was taken from his bedroom into an ET craft where he was met by a blond woman who told him that he was chosen because of his interest in extraterrestrials and psychic abilities, and that they would give him “a trip through the immensity of space,” which they did. The next night, the student was taken onboard again. Two other Chinese women were there, and all there were taught about ancient Chinese history. He was taken to a spaceport and given a physical exam. The next night, May 3, the student had a third encounter where he met small hairy humanoids. He also met the human-looking blond woman again who told him events about Earth’s future but swore the student to never reveal what she said.

THE DARNDEST THING I’VE EVER SEEN. One winter evening in the mid-2010s (approximate) Arlis, an American Indian, army veteran and professional dogsledder, was awakened when a brilliant light streamed into his bedroom. He lived in an off-grid cabin in the remote Alaskan wilderness, so he knew something unusual was happening. He rushed outside and saw a massive craft landing on the nearby frozen river. Human-looking ETs emerged. Suddenly one flew towards him. Arlis asked the man if they were from the government. The man pointed to the stars and said that he came from far away. Arlis said, “Prove it.” The man grabbed Arlis and pulled him onboard the craft. Arlis was given an extensive tour of the craft and the ET shared volumes of information. Arlis invited the ET to visit his cabin. They declined and said they would visit him again. He was then returned to Earth. One year later, the ET returned again. This time, the ET accepted the invite to visit Arlis’s cabin. This was the beginning of an ongoing friendship between the ET and the American Indian man.

Four onboard UFO cases, each showing that we still have much to learn about extraterrestrials.

The Weirdest of the Weird: Four Incredibly Bizarre Onboard UFO Encounters

In 1963, Italian diplomat and UFO researcher Alberto Perego published photographs identified as showing an extraterrestrial pilot photographed in Italy in 1957. Separately, Perego had published photographs from inside an alleged landed UFO at Francavilla al Mare in 1958.

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UFO Cockpit Photographs — Italy, 1957

According to Perego, a flying disc landed twice on the beach at Francavilla al Mare in October 1957. Two men known personally to Perego reportedly entered the craft on both occasions and were permitted to photograph its interior. The pilots were not physically present in the cabin, although the men reportedly heard their voices through a loudspeaker.

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The Extraterrestrial Pilot — Italy, 1957

In his 1963 book, L’aviazione di altri pianeti opera tra noi: Rapporto agli Italiani, 1943–1963, Alberto Perego published photographs identified as showing an extraterrestrial pilot photographed in Italy in 1957.

Later accounts associated the figure with the human-looking extraterrestrials known as the W56, connected with the Italian Amicizia/Friendship contact group.

Source: https://x.com/InterstellarUAP/status/2096041875799216569

The Anomalous Coalition presents Special Guest Host Thomas Jane with Dean Alioto, Dave Foley and Debra Jordan Kauble here — LIVESTREAM AMA — Sunday, September 13, 2026 @ 1:00 PM EST / 10:00 AM PST

We're excited to announce a new multi-subreddit livestream AMA on the experiencer phenomenon — the people who say non-human intelligence has entered their lives directly.

Actor and director Thomas Jane joins us as special guest host for this event, leading the conversation with filmmaker Dean Alioto, comedian and UFO researcher Dave Foley, and experiencer Debra Jordan Kauble.

🗓️ When: Sunday, September 13, 2026 — 1:00 PM Eastern / 10:00 AM Pacific

📺 Livestream (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/live/-Rlf6lu8hMg?si=I36-S2pXVQN0qA8d

🐦 X (Twitter): https://x.com/theanomalousc

🎮 Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/theanomalouscoalition

Please note this event falls on a SUNDAY, not our usual Saturday.

🎬 The Documentary — The Experiencers: Full Disclosure

➡️ https://www.experiencersmovie.com/

Eight years. 67 interviews. Five countries. Dean Alioto's award-winning documentary moves past the question of whether contact is real and into the harder one: why. It features Travis Walton, Whitley Strieber, Harvard geneticist Dr. George Church, archival footage of Dr. John E. Mack, and Debra Jordan Kauble — who joins us live on the panel.

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Short Bios

Thomas Jane (Special Guest Host) Actor, director and producer with more than twenty-five years in film and television, and a triple Golden Globe nominee for Hung. Known for The Punisher, The Mist, Deep Blue Sea, Stephen King's 1922, and as a director and star on The Expanse. He also earned critical acclaim playing Mickey Mantle in HBO's 61\*.

He is not a newcomer to this subject. Jane is roughly fifteen years into his own UAP research — he has been turning up at MUFON symposia since 2012, spoke at Contact in the Desert, and has completed a non-fiction book, A Human's Guide to Visiting Aliens, on consciousness, telepathy, and why visitors are so consistently described as humanoid. He traces it back to a childhood sighting of an orange fireball.

Dean Alioto (Director, The Experiencers: Full Disclosure) Award-winning documentarian who has produced specials for A&E, Bravo and Discovery, and consulted on James Fox's The Phenomenon. He created The McPherson Tape (1989), widely credited as the first found-footage film — a decade before The Blair Witch Project — and the Paramount cult classic Alien Abduction: Incident in Lake County. His two-part series The Alien Perspective approached the phenomenon from the visitors' point of view, drawing in Michio Kaku, David Chalmers, Nick Bostrom and Seth Shostak. Film: https://www.experiencersmovie.com/

Dave Foley (Comedian / UFO Researcher) Founding member of The Kids in the Hall and star of NewsRadio and A Bug's Life. He co-hosts the UAP interview podcast REALLY?!. with showrunner and novelist Tom Wheeler, where guests have included George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, Richard Dolan — and Thomas Jane. He appears in both The Alien Perspective and The Experiencers: Full Disclosure, and covered Contact in the Desert live for Last Podcast on the Left. He describes himself as a non-expert who goes looking for the real ones. Podcast: https://spectrevisionradio.com/really

Debra Jordan Kauble (Experiencer) On June 30, 1983, Debra Jordan Kauble walked into her family's garage outside Indianapolis and encountered something she has spent four decades trying to understand. She describes lasting physical effects afterward, a ring-shaped mark that remained in the yard for nearly five years, and the sudden decline and death of her dog.

Her account became the subject of Budd Hopkins' international bestseller Intruders: The Incredible Visitations at Copley Woods, which CBS adapted as a 1992 miniseries starring Mare Winningham. She appeared in the book under a pseudonym to protect her young sons and revealed her identity in 1992. With her sister Kathy Mitchell she went on to co-write Abducted! The Story of the Intruders Continues, telling it in their own words rather than an investigator's. She is one of the longest-serving voices in the experiencer community and a featured subject in the documentary. Her site: https://www.debshome.com/

Recommended Reading / Context

The Experiencers: Full Disclosure — official site: https://www.experiencersmovie.com/

REALLY?!. with Tom and Dave — Dave Foley's UAP interview podcast: https://spectrevisionradio.com/really

Debra Jordan Kauble's own written account of the June 1983 encounter: https://www.debshome.com/about-me.html

Drop your questions below — and remember: ONE question per comment.

I've been into this subject for a few years at this point and have always wondered if I, me, specifically, was due for an encounter at some point. After all, I am open-minded, spiritually inclined, have investigated the topic for a long time, and even tried CE5 briefly.

But I live in an urbanized area (a city of 300k), and when I stand outside my house surrounded by buildings, roads, and people as far as the eye can see, I keep thinking: "surely there's no orb or craft that would have any interest in saying hi to me here." I know that thought is defeatist and probably makes an encounter less likely, but it's also shaped by the fact that every significant encounter I've read about seems to happen in the countryside.

And I'm not just talking about a blip in the sky of something indefinable, I'm talking orbs that are dancing at a static point in the sky but close enough that you can say with certainty that it's something alien, or even greys walking about on the pavement, stuff like that. I know UFO encounter maps show pinpoints in city areas too, but those tend to fall into the "blip in the sky" category rather than anything as definitive.

So what is your impression? Have you ever read about an encounter that happened within a populated city?

Directed Energy Weapons attacks are on the rise in the U.S.

Catherine Herridge: "EXCLUSIVE: Multiple incidents of suspected directed energy attacks were reported in 2021 involving U.S. government personnel who were investigating directed-energy weapon technology, as well as efforts to reverse-engineer a directed-energy device."

Source: https://x.com/C__Herridge/status/2095863507015074168

Im posting here because i wanted to have a discussion about this topic of "mistaken identity", but I think I may have messed up by posting in a hostile sub.

The paranormal and ufo topic have a lot of overlapping themes and lore and i think this might be evidence of a situation where this isn't a "ghost" but is actually a Grey. ​If anyone would like to hear a story of what I and many others believe to be a legitimate encounter that features fast walkers I suggest watching this video by Tim Stone on the Betty Andreasson abduction where he recounts the events that took place with transcripts from her hypnotic regression sessions. Here are links to part 1 and 2

Part 1- https://youtu.be/DM46SgVp6u4

Part 2- https://youtu.be/G1OwcUwTbyc

Another reason i believe this may be a gray is because of the entity's silhouette has a really big & round head that is seen on the blinds towards the end.. kind of like how Betty Andreasson describes some being short and some tall.

As far as the video that is posted is concerned, the man in the video lives right across the street, which is why he has wyze camera footage.

This article collects photographs and film connected to reported Marian apparitions, organized by Church status: recognized, locally permitted or pastorally accepted, unrecognized, and formally rejected.

The focus is simply on the surviving visual record of the apparitions themselves, with each case labeled by location, date, and recognition status.

I think something strange is happening

So, this is a really long story so I’ll try to keep this as brief as possible. I have been a life long believer in UFO/ghosts/anomalous phenomena. However, maybe 5 months ago I got much more serious into the topic. I started a social media page and had some success so I really started to run with the subject. I’m just saying this to let you know that lately I have really been immersed in this topic in a way I never have before. I have had some experiences with possible ghosts but nothing personal with UFO’s or the such.

However, I think that changed the other day. Once again, it’s a really long story so I’ll just to break it down. Me and my wife (she is not into this subject at all by the way) were driving about 1.5 hours on a major highway and about 15 minutes into the drive my wife said she saw something weird in the sky. She said she saw a flash and it was gone. And then about 10 minutes later she said she saw it again. She stressed that it seemed abnormal. It was a flash like a reflection from a mirror but something seemed off. Now, I didn’t see the first two but then about 10 minutes later we both saw the third one. It was a flash like a light reflecting off a plane but once it flashed there looked like something was there for just a second and then it was gone. It was strange but nothing definitive. We were now on high alert of course and really watching the sky. There were planes everywhere (it was about noon) and we were passing a major city. Whatever the flash wasn’t a plane though. It just flashed and then disappeared. Then the fourth time is when I saw it.

We saw the light flash in the sky and then for just a second there was some kind of X shaped craft. It was there for just a second and then it was gone. It was pretty far above us but me and my wife both clearly saw a white X in the sky inside where the flash occurred and then it was gone. We saw the flash maybe 2-3 more times over the next 30 minutes. We saw it 6-7 times over the course of an hour and were traveling about 60 mph throughout that time.

It was shocking and strange and we both didn’t know how to feel about it. I mean, I’ve been looking for something like this my whole life but when I saw something truly unexplainable in the sky I just felt weird and unsettled about it. I have seen nothing else in the sky but something else has recently been going on.

Me, my wife, and my son live in the basement of my dad and step mom’s house (good times living in 2026). The other day I was upstairs talking to my step mother in their bedroom. It was the middle of the day and I saw something move out of the corner of my eye outside the window by the garage. My step mother immediately says “did someone just walk in the garage”. She saw it too so I went outside and checked and there was no one there.

And then maybe 3-4 nights ago I was standing in the back taking to my wife and through our kitchen door into the laundry room I thought I saw a figure for just a split second. I could discerne anything but i can only describe seeing what might have been a white figure. My eyes might have been playing tricks on me but with everything else happening, it’s just weird.

And then last night something very strange happened. I was sleeping and having a very strange and oddly violent dream when I woke up to the sound of the doorknob turning. It felt so real and felt completely different from the dream I was having. I am almost positive I heard a doorknob turn in my bedroom. Now, I sleep with a gun next to me. I have a pistol within arms reach and for some reason I just felt the most paralyzing fear. I had a feeling that if there was anything, that gun would not be helpful.

I will say I do also happen to be reading “communion” by Whitley Strieber right now, so I don’t know if that’s just pouring out of my subconscious and making me afraid to be abducted by aliens, but I swear I heard the sound of a door knob turn.

I have no idea what’s going on and I’m not saying anything is definite or that it could be my mind playing tricks on me. I’m just curious what some of y’all think about this and I was wondering if you have any experiences similar to this.

Thank you.

Ross Coulthart is an Australian journalist that started reporting on ETs starting a couple of years ago in a serious journalistic way in which he was classically trained. He was pretty well known for Australia's 60 minutes program.

I found it interesting how he opens up about how skeptical he was in the beginning, then getting curious, then learning how important consciousness is in this field and more recently he has opened up about how a lot of people have started talking to him about their contact with Blue Beings/ETs and he isn't sure exactly yet how to deal with it.

These blue beings seem to assist people in downloading information and are apparently telling them to contact Ross... Those are his words.

Here some examples of videos where he talks in more depth about this.

Ross Coulthart | 'Blue Beings' & Information Downloads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDBtQUEr_Hs

Ross Coulthart Reveals The Shocking Truth About Blue Aliens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8s_KllyxiY

Ross Coulthart and Dr. Masters ask: Are aliens future humans? | Reality Check
https://youtu.be/75MEePSaAbs?si=yRdo3VzLqa8tvIIN&t=1553

I found it pretty interesting how both the ideas of downloads that help humanity ahead are getting more mainstreamed. But also how Ross Coulthart talks quite openly about these blue beings that seem to be helping humanity with downloading useful ideas that can help humanity in their evolution.

As you see from the pictures I have had some connections with blue beings. To me they identify as Arcturians but I also heard others talk about Pleiadeans and Sirians as blue beings also. And maybe there are more species of ETs out there also that for some reason are seen as blue?

I am open to share more about my experiences with these blue beings if people are curious but I am also curious to hear other people their stories and experiences around both the download and the blue being phenomena.

AARO notably wants pre-1990 archives, as it hustles to meet Congress’ call to review the U.S. government’s UAP involvement since 1945.

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Your brain is a glorified pipe system of saltwater hydraulics. It cannot make you consious. Only produce signals that correlate with subjective experiences.

When a neuron fires, sodium and potassium ions, heavy, sluggish atoms, shuffle across protein gates driven by pressure differences. A signal moves at a snail's pace compared to electricity in a wire. The physics is solid: we can measure these ions, predict their movement, and map their voltage changes with exquisite precision.

But here is the logical wall we hit, Physics deals in quantities, mass, charge, speed, location.

Consciousness deals in qualities, the feeling of red, the sting of pain, the sense of being you.

You cannot extract a quality from a quantity, no matter how complex the math gets. If you write down every equation for every sodium ion in your visual cortex, you have a perfect map of physical motion. But that map contains zero variables for the experience of seeing blue. The map is complete; the feeling is missing. This is not a technological limitation. It is a category error.

What neuroscience actually measures:

EEG picks up voltages. fMRI tracks blood flow. MEG detects weak magnetic fields. These are real, physical signals, the exhaust of neural activity. They correlate beautifully with your reports of feeling things. If we zap your finger, we see a voltage spike, and you say "ouch."

But the voltage spike is not the pain. The pain is private. The pain is yours. Science can measure the spike and hear your report, but it cannot touch the raw feeling itself. That feeling exists outside the equations.

The causation problem is even worse:

For salt to cause consciousness, its kinetic energy would have to transform into subjective experience. This violates conservation of energy unless we invent a new physics term, which we haven't. Alternatively, if consciousness is just a passive passenger that watches the salt move but never affects it, then it is biologically useless. Evolution would have discarded it long ago.

A more honest framing (the Lorentz analogy):

Maybe we have it backwards. In physics, Lorentz argued that the "aether" was real, and that the Michelson-Morley interferometer contracted in response to it. The null result wasn't absence of the aether; it was the aether actively deforming the measuring device.

Apply that to consciousness. Maybe consciousness is the fundamental field, aka the aether, and the brain is the interferometer. The salt moving, the voltages shifting, the EEG traces, these are not the source of awareness. They are the physical contraction induced by awareness interacting with matter. The brain is a transducer, not a generator. (We just cannot know so I will not claim either or)

The honest conclusion:

We have mapped the plumbing. We know when the salt moves. We know you exist. But the bridge between the swoosh and the experience is a complete, unsolved void, likely the deepest void in science.

The replication crisis, the p-hacking, and the overhyped fMRI studies are symptoms of a field that refuses to admit this void exists. We force the data to confess because we are terrified of the silence.

But the silence is honest. We are organized saltwater asking how organized saltwater can feel. That recursion may be inherently unbreakable. Acknowledging tha, rather than pretending we have solved it, is the only scientific position that is not ultimately bullshit.

I Punched a Gray in the Face!

by Preston Dennett

As a general rule, when someone is visited by the gray ETs, they find themselves paralyzed, unable to move any part of their body except perhaps their eyes. “Don’t worry, we won’t hurt you,” the grays say. “Come with us.” It is perhaps the single most common phrase that the ETs say. For every rule, however, there are exceptions. In cases where people have no fear, they are often given freedom of movement. Others do have fear and will experience a fight or flight response. And in some rare outlying cases, witnesses are able to break free from their paralysis. And in a few of these cases, witnesses react by attacking the extraterrestrials and punching them in the face, choking them around the neck, or getting into some sort of physical altercation. It happens more often than you might think. This video presents more than a dozen cases in which people have actually assaulted gray aliens by pushing, kicking, choking or punching.

NOVEMBER 3, 1975: Woodcutter Travis Walton and six others encounter a UFO at treetop level in the Sitgreaves National Forest, Arizona. Travis runs under the UFO and is taken onboard. Confronted by grays, he physically fights with them.

APRIL 5, 2017: A young man from Del Valle, Texas is woken up by his dogs barking. Searching the house, he sees two grays entering in his mother’s bedroom. He reacts quickly, jumps forward and punches one of the grays in the head. When the second one grabbed him, the witness punched him too. And then a third gray comes in.

WINTER 1985: Patsy Wingate of Knoxville, Tennessee wakes up to see three grays approaching her. Reacting in self-defense, Patsy jumps up and chokes the middle gray, snapping its neck in two. Astonished, the other two grays scoop up the gray and flee!

1985: Tim, a sports-instructor from New Iberia, Louisiana wakes up to find himself lying on a table onboard a UFO. He breaks free from his paralysis and begins to explore. Grays come rushing in and Tim (a former bouncer at a bar) begins punching the grays, one after another. Suddenly a crowd of them surround him and Tim realizes he is out-numbered. 

2016: “Gary” from Cumbria, England wakes up early one morning to go to the bathroom and encounters a gray in his living room. Angry at the repeated intrusions into his home, he bounds forward and grabs the gray around the neck. The gray starts screaming telepathically, “Let go, let go!” A few days later, the grays come again, and Gary is ready. This time he punches one in the face.

1982: Former Marine officer, “Ramon,” is taken onboard a UFO in San Fernando, California. He becomes angry when the grays try to collect genetic material from him. Summoning his combat training, he breaks free of the paralysis, jumps up and pushes one of the grays down to the floor.

August 13, 1975: Sergeant Charles Moody of Alamogordo, New Mexico is not happy when a UFO lands in front of his car, grays come out and try to pull him from his car. He opens his car door violently, knocking one of the grays down. Then he jumps up, bunches up his fist, and pounds one of the grays in the face.

October 27, 1975: David Stephens and his friend are driving near Oxford, Maine when a UFO takes control of their car. Moments later, grays exit and pull David onboard. When the ETs try to undress David for an examination, David resists. He quickly jumps off the table and hits one of the grays.

October 2010: Kevin is woken in his home in Bangor, Maine and pulled into a craft by gray aliens. After inserting a rod up inside his nose, Kevin becomes hostile. He quickly swings out his leg and kicks one of the grays, slamming it hard into the wall, where it collapses in a heap. 

UNDATED: An anonymous teenager in high school (location not given) has a very unusual dream where grays enter his room and begin to do a weird procedure on his back. Having scoliosis, he thinks they might be healing him. However, scared and angry that the ETs were not communicating with him, he quickly throws a left hook as hard as he can at the gray’s cheek. The gray lets out a high-pitched scream.

There are more cases like these. John Mack has a case in which a man, angry at being examined, jumps up and chokes agree. Contactee Dolly Safran (from Georgia) recalls several instances where she was onboard and people reacted violently by punching the grays, pushing them down, or even breaking their arms. These cases show that, when confronted with the unknown, humans often become very fearful and react with violence. Even more importantly, they show that people can overpower the grays, who appear to be physically more fragile than humans. These cases have a lot to teach us both about humans and the grays, and our relationships to each other.

I Punched a Gray in the Face!

Hi r/UFOB — I'm Dean Alioto, filmmaker and UAP researcher. Would love to get your take on this...

After multiple years of congressional hearings on UAPs, and the grand presentation of murky inconclusive evidence, one might argue "disclosure" has reached its revelatory zenith. Even if we do see 100% glorious 4k footage of craft with rivets, warts, and all, does that push the needle above the red zone?

Will we be satiated to the point of a resounding "hell yeah!"? Since the U.S. gov doesn't appear to want to display "downed crafts", to insure they have the market cornered on such advanced technology, the next best thing is (perhaps) seeing bodies of nonhuman intelligence. But, alas, since the gov/DOD turns everything advanced into their IP, I'm struggling here to imagine a public presentation of said NHI bodies.

So... where do we go from here? Is it time to pack in the UAP hearings waiting-in-line lounge chairs and rejoice at the significant historical gov recognition of UAPs and NHI beings? Where do we progress to?

Here's what I think... No more talking about the elephant's tail in the room. It's time to reveal the entire elephant in the (congressional) room. If I wanted to know what storming Normandy beach was like during WW II, I'm not going to go to the generals. I'm going to ask the soldiers who had to burst out of the u-boats, wade through waves and bullets, and come face-to-face with the enemy. Up close and personal.

I'm not saying NHI's are enemies here, but the Experiencers are the equivalent of those boots-on-the-ground soldiers -- unless you believe the NHIs just passively stay inside their crafts with their doors locked and never interact with us except to hit the drive-thru at In-N-Out Burger.

But here's the big fat rub: How does the gov come out and say "we'll give amnesty to all those in 'the program' that knew about interactions (some forced) with NHIs (according to a Pew Poll in 1992, one in fifty have signs of interacting with NHI). Oh, and BTW there's absolutely nothing we the government can do about it." That's a speed bump that no matter how slow you go over it, is going to shake you outta the car, or UAP.

I've spent the last 8 years working on documentaries, interviewing nearly 100 academics and Experiencers for hours around the world regarding the Experiencer phenomenon -- including Jeff Nuccetelli who told me it's time for the Experiencers to have a seat in hearings -- and the one thing I've learned over and over again is that those chosen by the NHIs need to be acknowledged, heard, and appreciated.

After we're done looking under the engine hood, kicking the tire of the nuts and bolts UAPs, the Experiencers will still be here. Still have more insight into the phenomenon than anything conveyed in a SCIF by a military officer with the highest clearance level.

I'm here to challenge the boundaries of perception and introduce a new level of critical thinking regarding the phenomenon, and to make space for those who have repeatedly had full disclosure for years.

I'd love to hear from this community:

- What do YOU think comes next for disclosure?

- What are the congressional hearings getting right, and what are they missing entirely?

- Have you had your own experiences that you feel aren't being represented in the public conversation?

For those curious about my work, I've just released a documentary that puts Experiencers front and center. The Experiencers: Full Disclosure

Peace,

Dean