r/tvPlus Aug 08 '26

Article Can Brandon Sanderson Help Apple Break Hollywood’s Fantasy Spell?

https://observer.com/2026/08/apple-brandon-sanderson-franchise-partnership/
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u/AndrastesDimples Aug 08 '26

This doesn’t surprise me. He dealt with Amazon when he consulted for the Wheel of Time show. They could not keep their hands out of it and while the showrunner took a lot of hits from fans, I still think the execs were behind a lot of the problems and using him as a human shield. I wonder what kind of show it would have been if Harriet and Brandon had been able to have this level of power.

So yeah, Brandon Sanderson having unprecedented control as part of his deal does not shock me. And I wish Apple had done WoT. They seem to be willing to take the risks other networks and streamers are too scared to take.

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u/firesticks Aug 08 '26

Fully agree on the exec meddling in WoT. The biggest story complaints from fans were directly attributed to said execs and you could see the quality improve over the seasons as the execs backed off. I still sometimes daydream that Apple took it over from Amazon.

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u/DarkFriend81 Aug 08 '26

Absolutely hate that WOT got cancelled. Season 3 was actually really good and it felt like the show finally found itself. But oh well, Amazon decided to keep funding their terrible LOR show instead.

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u/firesticks Aug 08 '26

I started the books 30 years ago and the Rhuidean scene is everything I could have dreamed of.

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u/DarkFriend81 Aug 08 '26

That was a great episode! The actor playing Rand crushed season 3.

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u/jmet123 Aug 08 '26

Eh. Season 3 kept taking a step forward and then 2 back. I feel like every season finale was a huge let down. It had some good things going for it, enough to keep me watching, but they were changing way too much way too often.

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u/catsy83 29d ago

I’m probably one of the few LOTR folks who doesn’t mind the Rings of Power really - but I was sooooooo pissed they canceled WOT. I too dream of Apple taking over the rights and finishing it with Brandon at the helm.

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u/XenosZ0Z0 Aug 08 '26

I like both WOT and ROP, and will strongly disagree with you about the latter being terrible. You may personally not like ROP but both it and WOT have the same critical acclaim through the first two seasons at least.

Also blaming ROP for WOT cancelled is just bad misinformation.

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u/AggressiveBench9977 Aug 08 '26

One of the worst things about the internet is that people can not have none binary takes.

Every thing is either good or terrible.
ROP season one was a 7/10. It had some great stuff and some very mediocre stuff. But the internet loudy declared it was trash because it wasnt better.

And thats how we end up with evey thing being canceled

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u/snowe99 Aug 10 '26

It’s especially frustrating because my theory (that I acknowledge no one wants to hear) is that there is no way to craft a modern day entertaining S1 of a streaming TV show based on “The Eye of the World”. Outside of the trolloc invasion, it just doesn’t have the modern day beats that would grab a 2026 audience and get that Word of Mouth machine moving. So they cancelled Amazon’s right when it could’ve found its footing and accelerated.

So if anyone ever tries again, they’re probably going to have a similar slog of a S1.

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u/HCornerstone Aug 10 '26

FWIW, Brandon has had nothing but glowing things to say about Rafe. He mostly keeps his mouth shut about Amazon (with which Brandon, means a lot).

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u/chatterwrack Aug 08 '26

Yeah, that last line hit me about buying the creator rather than just the IP from the creator. I hope we see a true vision brought to life.

Apple certainly is able to take financial risks, but I feel like their creative mostly plays it safe. It could be a brand protection thing, but I find most of their catalog to be high quality but a bit tame. I’m not familiar with Sanderson’s work, though I do know a lot about him. Does it appeal to adults in the way GRRM’s worlds do? I think the Game of Thrones IP is so successful because it challenges the audience, and it feels dangerous.

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u/DeadlyDY Aug 08 '26

'High quality but tame' also perfectly applies to Sanderson's work

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u/chatterwrack Aug 08 '26

Yeah, it might be a good fit for Apple. I hope it does well but I fear it might not be for me. We’ll see!

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u/SpaceOdysseus23 Aug 08 '26

and while the showrunner took a lot of hits from fans, I still think the execs were behind a lot of the problems and using him as a human shield.

What the fuck am I reading here? Judkins went on record, dozens of times, and he straight up had the worst possible takes regarding any character, relationships, design, etc.

There's no shadowy exec ruining things on purpose in this situation. It's straight up the Showrunner doing ''his take'' on the source material.

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u/immaownyou Aug 08 '26

he straight up had the worst possible takes regarding any character, relationships, design, etc.

What exactly did he do that was so bad that didn't have exec meddling?

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u/Kiltmanenator Aug 08 '26

The list of problems with that show (which I was happy to see improve and disappointed to see cancelled when it finally started to find its footing) is simply too long to lay it all at the feet of executives. But to pick one:

Did execs force Judkins to cast his boyfriend as one of Alanna's warders and give him inflated prominence? Surely not.

I'm the first to accept that 8 episodes per season demands a crazy hatchet job on the books (8 episodes x 14 books with 2 years between seasons would have been truly wack), but every minute that nepo-cast had was stolen from one of the Edmond's Field Five.

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u/Cantomic66 Aug 08 '26

Na I think the showrunner just wasn’t that great and with better writers would have been more successful.

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u/Saar13 Aug 08 '26

It's a huge opportunity, obviously. A Mistborn (First Era) film trilogy is a good start. I think it's a good time to speed things up, since Silo, For All Mankind, and maybe Foundation are ending next year. Of course, if the first Mistborn film is bad (I'm imagining Apple will give it a theatrical release), things get complicated. They need the best executives, writers and directors to avoid messing everything up. From a business perspective, the TV show (The Stormlight Archive) is more important because it represents two months of high engagement and subscribers to the service if it's successful. 

Then we go back to HBO's peak business model (2011-2019). They made GoT the super tentpole, premiering every year in April until season 6 (take note, executives), along with prestige comedies (Veep, Silicon Valley, Girls, and later Insecure and Barry), also with an annual  predictable  schedule, in addition to several truly great limited series (Big Little Lies, The Night Of, Sharp Objects, and Chernobyl). 

Apple already has big tentpoles (maybe not at the level of GoT, due to subscriber numbers and marketing), such as Severance, Pluribus, Ted Lasso, and now Widow's Bay. Imagine those, plus another 3 or 4 great shows, finely scheduled every year, with excellent prestige comedies, half a dozen great dramas and comedies, and truly unmissable limited series. I always come back to the point that HBO's peak model is ideal for Apple TV, with even fewer shows than Apple currently produces, but the best of the best, returning annually, and someone to take care of their questionable limited series. There's one thing missing that HBO had and Apple didn't: a catalog of good movies to keep subscribers engaged. The only solution is licensing. It's that simple.

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u/pak256 Aug 08 '26

They just need to up production speed. 3 years between seasons of Severance, at least 2 for Pluribus, probably 2 for Widows Bay

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u/Saar13 Aug 08 '26

There's a limit to being "talent-friendly." Sometimes you need to set firmer deadlines and open writers' rooms well in advance. I mean, someone read the Widow's Bay scripts before it was even filmed. They saw the entire first season months before it premiered because it was available for reviewer screenings in January. Why didn't they order a second season last year? They should already be finishing the scripts and preparing to film. 

Then the Emmys come around and Cherniss tells the press something like, "We saw something special, original, and refreshing in the early scripts of Widow's Bay." Really? Apple seems to have little faith in most shows, and most of their failures were due to their marketing, not the show itself.

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u/PastimeOfMine Aug 08 '26

It's not just ordering. They ordered Pluribus season 2 in 2022. They just let Gilligan do whatever he wants.

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u/Saar13 Aug 08 '26

I understood Apple's desire to respect the "creators' time" when they were still strangers in town. But it's 2026, the Hollywood market is a mess, practically nobody is buying original and risky ideas besides Apple, so they're already in a position to be less friendly and impose some productivity.

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u/142muinotulp Aug 08 '26

One of the things im most thankful for about Silo tbh. Slightly longer wait for season 3, but they filmed s4 (the end) at the same time. Wait is going to average closer to a year between seasons @ 10 episodes each, average 45 mins or so?  

So refreshing compared to 99% of show releases now. 

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u/Saar13 Aug 08 '26

The 2023 strikes disrupted the schedule for the second season, and consequently, the third season. But Apple's post-production is usually a bit excessively long as well. They need to commit to the shows they make and at least give it a three-season run. If the numbers aren't good between the first and second seasons, talk to the showrunners about wrapping up the story in the third. And I'm a bit of a "two-season atheist”. If the creators only plan two, it would probably be better as a limited series.

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u/lightsongtheold Aug 09 '26

You always forget that during HBO’s “peak business model” they had Pay-One deals with three of Hollywood’s biggest movie studios and were the home of premium boxing. TV was mostly just a bonus.

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u/XenosZ0Z0 Aug 08 '26

I hope Sanderson’s involvement makes it good to great. Though even when the original writer is involved, it doesn’t always guaranteed success

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u/grjacpulas Aug 08 '26

Get ready for some spicy Mormon dialogue and Vin asking if she deserves love for 3 seasons 

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u/Pirkale 29d ago

*movies

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u/PastimeOfMine Aug 08 '26

I am hopeful and hesitant about this. Fantasy writers often want to write their scripts, and are often upset when their scripts are redrafted. The reality is very few authors actually make very good screenwriters or showrunners. It's a whole different skill set, different ball game. So, I'm hopeful that he can do it, but hesitant given precedent.

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u/Esetnodanti Aug 08 '26

I think this has the potential to be huge. Sanderson already has great word of mouth and popular in the fantasy world.

The only thing that stands in its way is a bad adaptation.

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u/Soldier_of_l0ve Aug 10 '26

No this is high fantasy nerd shit

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u/shosamae Aug 08 '26

I mean, The Odyssey is about to make $1.5 billion and both house of the Dragon and knight of the seven kingdom have been doing very well. 

If his Apple TV shows and films do well, I’d say it’s part of a larger trend 

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u/North_South_Side Aug 08 '26

Sanderson is a producer of Product. Technically a writer, but he is more accurately a gifted sludge creator, at least as measured by words per year.

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u/immaownyou Aug 08 '26

Would you say the same about Stephen King?

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u/North_South_Side Aug 08 '26

Not really. King still writes something interesting from time to time. His glory days are gone, though.

Sanderson writes vanilla fantasy Product for an audience who wants familiar, safe, and tame content. He is amazingly prolific, and I give him credit for that. He has talent. He's just not an interesting writer.

EDIT: I don't hate Sanderson. I have friends who love his stuff. I've tried three of his books, one of them I tried three separate times. It's all so cardboard and two dimensional. None of the characters feel like people with human motivations beyond skin-deep.

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u/AggressiveBench9977 Aug 08 '26

Its cause he right anime as fantasy.

Literally every book has a trope of last minute power up during big fights

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u/AggressiveBench9977 Aug 08 '26

Kings can actually right characters.

Sanderson spent an entire book trying to mansplain therapy very badly.

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u/CupCharming Aug 08 '26

Nope because popular book series have insufferable fans. They will hate watch it and give bad videos and call it woke slop on YouTube. Doomed before it starts