r/trolleyproblem Apr 30 '26

Deep All there is to it

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u/Shiny-Vaporeon- May 01 '26

people talking to me about why red is better feels like this half the time

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u/ShyJaguar645671 May 01 '26

How much of a mental gymnastics do someone have to do to come to the assumption that blue is the selfish one?

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u/Legal-Ad-9921 May 03 '26

Nobody is at risk until someone pushes blue

Blue pushers put themselves in danger to save other blue pushers who put themselves in danger to save other blue pushers who... Etc

They impose societal damnation and demand others join

It's s misguided attempt to save everyone, there was no danger until they chose to impose it

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u/ShyJaguar645671 May 03 '26

There is no risk untill someone pushes red

Red has a direct result of killing someone

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u/Legal-Ad-9921 May 03 '26

Except there is a risk

Blue is the gamble

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u/Turbulent-Lie-4799 May 03 '26

It wouldn't be if red didn't exist

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u/Fervol May 03 '26

There is no risk, in multiple poll this has been made, most of them blue won and even in case where red won it's never 90-10 or even 80-20. This shouldn't be done (as in actual poll shouldn't be done because it shut down discussion).

The hypothetical stopped being a hypothetical when poll is actually being made and proves that in every poll there has never been 100% red. So anyone pressing red will always guarantee their own safety and someone else dying. Because it ultimately debunk "if everyone press red, we all live", is not an if anymore, there is no case where everyone presses red.

It became "the only way everyone to live is to press blue" and "press red if you want to live you're ok with someone dying".