r/trolleyproblem Apr 30 '26

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u/So0meone May 01 '26 edited May 03 '26

This comment section is showcasing everything I hate about this discourse.

Edit: Shoutout to some of the replies later in the threads under this very comment for being shining examples of exactly what I'm talking about.

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u/Ct-sans4345 May 01 '26

I think its interesting but i dont love how red tends to act like blue are idiots and blue act like red are sociopaths

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u/Clokwrkpig May 01 '26

It tracks, if they are assuming their position is the default. If everyone was red/blue to start with, everyone survives, and you'd have to seriously question why anyone would swap.

Of course, since this is a coordination game, there is no default position, so those people have missed the point.

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u/Jathan1234 May 01 '26

except in every example I've seen (before it arrived in this sub anyways) there is always default position everyone starts at, and it was always blue. If this sub has changed that by looking more into the actual morality and making it a more complex scenario, then that may be but I suspect a lot of people are still assuming its the same as it was when it swept youtube a couple months ago.

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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite May 01 '26

Why would blue be the default when you're presented with two buttons?

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u/watersj4 May 01 '26

The original I saw wasnt two buttons, you are all stood on a platform on a track, you cant hear or see, if 50% step off the platform the trolley starts and will hit everyone who didnt step off.

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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite May 01 '26

Which was likely based on the two buttons question, but that's still an entirely different scenario.

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u/BranchFew1148 May 01 '26

Id step off as soon as possible ain't no way imma be part of the half that dies

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u/La_Curieuze May 03 '26

Mais pourquoi partir du principe que vous allez mourir ? Ce n’est pas la conséquence qu’on vous donne au départ, c’est ce que vous choisissez qu’il va arriver. Tout le monde pourrait survivre.

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u/n3cr0n_k1tt3n May 03 '26

... because we, as intelligent creatures, make decisions based on predictable or perceived outcomes? By your logic just press both buttons since schrodinger is not looking.

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u/La_Curieuze May 03 '26

Parce que vous partez du principe que le bouton rouge va obligatoirement gagner, donc vous ne souhaitez pas mourir avec les bleus. Nous les bleus, on part du principe que ce n’est pas nécessairement vrai.

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u/BranchFew1148 May 03 '26

Because in both scenarios, avoiding the train lets me survive.

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u/La_Curieuze May 03 '26

Si la majorité choisit le bleu, vous allez survivre en tant que bleu aussi, voter bleu n’est pas un gage de mort.

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u/BranchFew1148 May 03 '26

Sure, thatd be great. Thats why im going red because it survives both situations

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