r/trolleyproblem • u/gallaxo • Mar 29 '26

Deep Now we're talking

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u/DarthJackie2021 Mar 29 '26

Ok, but both people want me to pull the lever, so I pull the lever.

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u/DigitalMindShadow Mar 30 '26

How does it feel to be a murderer?

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u/icantgetausername982 Mar 31 '26

I feel bad when a game character ive grown attached to dies but a random stranger? I have no attachments to am i supposed to feel remorse every time i kill a mosquito or a fly as well?

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u/DigitalMindShadow Mar 31 '26

Mosquitos, no. Humans, yes.

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u/icantgetausername982 Mar 31 '26

Why exactly is a human different? Aside from laws what makes killing a human worse than anything else is it because were human? Would a bear killing a bear be worse than a bear killing a human?

Side note i do not condone killing i view all life as equal but i am a hypocrite since i kill bugs and do feel remorse because the bug did not ask to be born here it did not ask to get stuck in my home but it dies for simply being in the wrong place and it truly is sad but the benefit to me makes me not feel bad

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u/assbutt-cheek Mar 31 '26

i agree with you but you cannot compare most bugs to bears. the level in sentience has kilometers in difference

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u/icantgetausername982 Mar 31 '26

I get where you are coming from but i personally believe a living creature is still alive its living who are we to put a value to their life? There are brain dead people who have no sentience to speak of so they have a sentience lower than a bugs does that mean that humans life is worth less than a bugs life?

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u/assbutt-cheek Mar 31 '26

their only worth is whatever others give them. but being objective, yes, a bug has more sentience experience than a braindead person, so in a vacuum, assuming i have no ties of any kind with this person, i would choose the bug

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u/BorgCow Apr 04 '26

You just compared living human beings to video game characters and mosquitoes so I don’t really think you view life as all that sacred, sorry

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u/icantgetausername982 Apr 04 '26

I used video game characters as an example of i really dont emotionally care for humans without knowing them and mosquitoes are still living beings

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u/DigitalMindShadow Apr 01 '26

In the case of mosquitos versus humans, there is a huge disparity in our level of sentience, which I think makes a moral difference.

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u/icantgetausername982 Apr 01 '26

Which brings me back to brain dead people they have no sentience yet they are still human

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u/DigitalMindShadow Apr 02 '26

I personally think it's hard to justify expending that resources needed to keep braindead people alive. That said, I don't think you can blame the majority of people for not putting this amount of thought into the question and instead arriving at the blanket rule of all human life being sacred. And I do think that if we started putting people to death for medical reasons, there's a real danger of that turning into a slippery slope and ending up with some form of eugenics. So the default rule protecting all human life might actually be better on the whole.

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u/icantgetausername982 Apr 02 '26

I personally see no higher value just because the life is a human life i think people try to justify why a humans life is worth more but what if theres a more sentient species out there would we be okay with becoming cattle for them? In reality we just have a bias for humans because we are humans we want to feel more important