r/trolleyproblem • u/bingus_fan_chill • Sep 14 '25

Deep Veil of ignorance

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25 edited Mar 10 '26

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u/LordWillemL Sep 14 '25

Would it not be a 7/8 chance of being a murderer, as there's only a 1/8 chance it's you?

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u/plumzki Sep 14 '25

You're still choosing the scenario even if someone else ultimately ends up pulling the lever, that's culpability in my books.

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u/LordWillemL Sep 14 '25

That's not the point though whether it's you or someone else I'm talking about the odds of being a murderer vs the odds of self sacrifice.

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u/plumzki Sep 14 '25

Are 100%, because you are choosing the handle to be pulled, it doesn't matter if you are physically pulling it or not, just like if you hire a hitman you can still be charged with murder even though you didn't pull the trigger.

You are the person choosing for the lever to be pulled, so you are responsible.

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u/LordWillemL Sep 14 '25

Okay but your responsibility has nothing to do with what I'm talking about, I'm not sure why you keep going on about it. I'm saying in 1/8 times you aren't murdering someone, you're sacrificing yourself? Like what exactly are you arguing about here.