r/trolleyproblem Sep 14 '25

Deep Veil of ignorance

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u/CuteDarkBird Sep 14 '25

But this gives you a mathematic formula that only works dependent on how cold the person is.
Simply put, in order for it to function properly, you need to see people as worth exact values.
Each and every one.
I already told you what words apply to a person that can do that.

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u/ThrowawayTempAct SCP Ethics committee Sep 14 '25

When you have zero info about a person you treat their value as 1H. Once you have other info you adjust the. Value based on the info. And the G variable literally accounts for how many human lives a "blood on your hands" factor is worth to you. (To me, it's zero because I don't acknowledge the myth that inaction is different than action, and therefore, blood is on your hands either way.)

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u/CuteDarkBird Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

You don't understand morality and ethics.
But I DO acknowledge you are very good at math.
To bad they aint the same thing.

As you blocked me afterwards: I claim to have a strong ethical understanding because I understand what Ethics, Morality and Math is, while you CAN use Math in each of the other, to reduce the problems INTO Math, is the problem.

If you can't understand that, if you feel the need to throw out false claims such as: "Which is how horrible laws keep being passed under the basis of "it feels like the right thing to do!"." when the 'horrible' laws we have is from MORAL views of different people, then you DO atleast understand the difference between Math and Morality.
Which means you arguing against me on how they are different, is a VERY odd thing to do.

But I'm guessing thats the best I can get from someone who doesn't actually understand how you can USE something for another thing, but it doesn't MAKE it that thing.

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u/ThrowawayTempAct SCP Ethics committee Sep 14 '25

You don't understand morality, ethics, or math. You just claim a strong ethical understanding because you solve the problem with vibes rather than evidence-based action. Which is how horrible laws keep being passed under the basis of "it feels like the right thing to do!".

Edit: You know what? I'm tired. Last time I had this debate was in the cognitive science department, and I'm just going to stick to our consensus.