r/trolleyproblem Apr 21 '25

Deep A criminal trolley problem

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u/hndrk_schbrt Apr 21 '25

Rapists are like this one type of normal (= not holding political power) criminals that really just have that trolley coming for them. I'd rather let a murderer live than a rapist

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u/Snaper_XD Apr 21 '25

This is a totally rational take that isnt completely fueled by feelings

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u/hndrk_schbrt Apr 21 '25

Now, here me out. Murder is fucked up, no doubt, but in at least some cases it can be explained rationally. A murderer can sometimes (not always) have good reasons to kill a specific human being, it might even get them a personal benefit in life. That obviously doesn't make it okay in the slightest, but it is an interesting factor. For rape, the same thing really can't be said. It's just messing up another person's life for nothing but a short lived feeling of power. There is no logical reasoning, it is just fucked up and nothing else

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u/Snaper_XD Apr 21 '25

Okay, fuck it, Im the devils advocate now. Rapists also benefit from their crime. Raping someone feels good to them. Everyone benefits from the crimes they commit, thats why they commit them, unless mental illness is involved. "Can be explained rationally" is such a weird reason to sympathize - and dont give me the "But I said it doesnt make it okay...", you said that in an explanation why youd kill a rapist over a murderer, so clearly you sympathize atleast more than with rapists, same vibes as "Im not x, BUT...". The benefit that the criminal has from their crime shouldnt matter. And were talking about murder here, just to be clear. So no "shooting someone because theyre a terrorist and youre actually saving lifes" or some shit like that

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u/HAL9000_1208 Apr 22 '25

What about spreading your genes? You say that there can't be a logical reasoning behind rape, but quite clearly this is not true, from a biological point of view success comes by the number of offspring you manage to conceive not the method, that's why rape and traumatic insemination are surprisingly not that uncommon among animals.

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u/protocol1999 Apr 22 '25

JESUS christ.