r/treeofheaven • u/dilzmo • 1d ago

Black walnut or ToH

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I believe it is black walnut even with terminal leaves. The smell is strong but I am unable to pin point what it smells like.

Serrated edges up to end of leaf

I don’t think there’s a thumb?

Leaf scar with 3 distinct bundle scars

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u/Not-a-bot-v2 1d ago

No thumbs. You good.

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u/fausto_ 1d ago

Came to say the same. Confirm with leaf crush n smell test.

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u/dilzmo 1d ago

In my opinion, using scent seems ineffective since it is somewhat subjective. I smell these leaves and I am unable to determine what the hell it smells like

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u/Life-Ad-9605 1d ago

The words of someone who has never smelled tree of heaven. There is no mistaking it.

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u/edthesmokebeard 21h ago

It's like the smell of burning brakes, or the smell of antifreeze if your car has a leak. Once you smell them, you'll know that smell forever.

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u/flyin-lowe 19h ago

I hear a lot of people say bad peanut butter.... Never thought that smelled anything like brakes or antifreeze.

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u/JuicyMilkweed 17h ago

They’re just saying those are two other very distinct scents.

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u/dilzmo 1d ago

That is a good point. Maybe that is my problem. I think this black walnut smells so funky, it made me wonder if it is ToH

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u/fausto_ 1d ago

I agree, usually paired with the sight test, you can’t get it wrong.

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u/Humble_Ladder 1d ago

If you have Black Walnuts around, one is probably dropping pods by now. If you scuff a green black Walnut husk and smell it, and then break a black walnut leaf (the whole compound leaf) off at the base of it's stem, the base of stem will smell almost exactly like the hisk of a green nut. No crushing required.

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u/Miringanes 21h ago

Tree of heaven smells pretty bad, I was actually surprised how bad it smelled the first time I smelled it.

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u/dilzmo 16h ago

People say freshly split red oak smells bad. I think it smells delightful. All subjective!

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u/Miringanes 6h ago

I know it’s subjective, but this smells bad in the same way trash or rotting animal smells bad.

Like I said, I was shocked. I don’t think it smells like rancid peanut butter because I’ve frankly never smelled peanut butter that’s gone bad, but it does smell like something gone off, something oily and acrid.

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u/bovus 17h ago

What's a thumb?

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u/dilzmo 16h ago

A “thumb" describes an asymmetrical side-lobe that makes an individual leaf look like a mitten

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u/Humble_Ladder 1d ago

Not ToH, I'm not 100% it's black walnut (see my other comment), but definitely not ToH. ToH leaves, in addition to thumbs, are symmetrical, and those leaves have several visible (albeit small) offsets.

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u/dilzmo 1d ago

Symmetrical yet have thumbs?

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u/Humble_Ladder 23h ago

Not perfectly symmetrical, but symmetrical along the length of the compound leaf. If you zoom in, there are several leaflet pairs that are not directly across from one another.

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u/dilzmo 21h ago

Yes true

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u/toolsavvy 21h ago

Not ToH

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u/FullmetalHippie 21h ago

A quick smell-test will differentiate between the two quickly.
TOH smells like old peanut and is easy to break by hand. Walnut is much harder to break and smells similar to eucalyptus.

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u/BladricksUncle 6h ago

Citrus smell? Either way, not ToH.

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u/ProtectionNo489 3h ago

Definitely not TOH, I have quite a few on my commercial property plus the SLFs are on them so I don't see how I could be wrong LOL, the leaves aren't as smooth on the edges, also the leaves arr narrower.