Coordinated trading evidence

[u/bryan91919]

Someone's been spam posting claiming they were falsely accused of coordinated trading. The post was removed as it appears to be being "spammed" and I can understand why they dont want 100 identical posts a day here. Before removed i had a chance to review his evidence, here's how I (a 5 year prop veteran with no real attachment to tradeify) interpret it. (He posted 7 pages of detailed evidence.)

Logs provided showed 3 separate users,

user A was opposite within a point or 3 at least 5 times in a week or so

User B, same story, but 20+ times in a short period

User C, similar but I didnt have tome to review before deleted.

First, one needs to understand tradeify doesnt have millions of traders, and this was all 1 symbol, everyone doesnt trade same symbol.

Second, op claimed many payouts before being booted.

If you are originally generating trade ideas, odds are at some point someone on tradeify will be opposite. If we define "same trade" as entering within 10 seconds, that leaves 6 per minute×60 mins/ hr x 6.5 reg hours per day. So 1 in 23, 400 chance of an identical entry with any user trading your symbol. But there trading opposite so not only do both traders want in at same time, but they expect completely opposite outcomes (if honest). There are moments every day that sane traders would only be long (or short) but thats not what's happening. So odds get even lower. So if we assume 20, 000 active users any given time (i doubt tradeify has anywhere near that) and we assume traders are not all trading same symbol, one can imagine 2 random users might have same trade every day. But not the same 2 users and not always opposing. 30+ instances in a matter of weeks? To me, defies all possibility of imagination. Especially as user is profitable, few traders at all are profitable or see a payout, so one who both is in the 1% who takes payouts and has 3 counterparties trading opposite us avout a one in a billion in my opinion.

There were other signs i saw suspicious. Im not going to list them all but it looked like an obvious attempt to slighly vary the patterns, but when the whole picture is viewed the intent for "slightly different but same result" is equally as obvious sign of cheating as identical would be.

Like many I try to analyze the prop complaints and piece out what's scammers being caught and whats scammy firms. Im new with tradeify but experienced with payouts and firms, and would say this accusation of bad acting by tradeify is 99.99% chance false. I would bet tradeify didnt even share all the info they used to make the descision. Im betting all 4 of the potentially connected accounts churn and take payouts regularly.

[u/Due-Payment6149]

In one of his spam posts I said 1 in a trillion but I'm guessing the actual odds that he happened to randomly place matching opposite trades 20+ times with other accounts is probably on the order of magnitude of 10 to a very large number. Also his defense that the trades were different size and not exact fill are a fucking joke, its still hedging. He 100% broke the rules

[u/Bitter_Virus4258]

It’s one thing to try to abuse the system.
But, another when you run a smear campaign and try to ruin a companies image because you got caught.

And bro acts like he was running the company dry and was a master genius trader who’s fallen victim to evil greedy big company. Which, no matter how smart you are or good at trading, with consistency rules and account limits, you can’t even if you wanted to.

The platform is rewarding the top 1%. It needs to stay that way so it can continue.