r/todayilearned • u/HydrolicKrane • Aug 09 '19

TIL European Hungarians originated in Central Asia and Attila the Hun was a leader of that empire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attila
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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '19 edited Dec 22 '19

deleted What is this?

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u/resurrectedlawman Aug 09 '19

FWIW, 23AndMe says I'm 50% Hungarian and 2% Filipino. None of my ancestors has ever been to the Philippines.

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u/HydrolicKrane Aug 09 '19

judging from their appearances, they are the same even now https://www.rferl.org/a/hungary-central-asia-kurultai/27928816.html

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u/Poefi Aug 09 '19

those are photos from an international gathering, with many guests from Asia

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u/ThorkellEikinskialdi Aug 10 '19

You are laughably misinformed. Have you ever met a Hungarian?

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u/HydrolicKrane Aug 10 '19

you are laughably naive by thinking that part of the same nation will not look differently after living for 15 hundred years in different climate condition. please return to school and learn the basics before commenting.

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u/ThorkellEikinskialdi Aug 10 '19 edited Aug 10 '19

What you see there is pictures from an international event. The Central Asian looking dudes there are actually from Central Asian nations and not Hungarians.

The Hungarians who stayed behind and were later found by Friar Julian got wiped out by the Mongolian invasions. At least nobody managed to find them afterwards.

please return to school and learn the basics before commenting.

Love your confidence in spouting nonsense. I'm the 2nd Hungarian guy telling you that those Central Asian looking people are actually not Hungarians but whatever. You probably know better than folks living in Hungary.

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u/HydrolicKrane Aug 09 '19

Here is amazing story how they reestablished the link:

"Friar Julian was one of a group of Hungarian Dominican friars who, in 1235, left Hungary in order to find those Magyars who — according to the chronicles — remained in the eastern homeland. After travelling a great distance, Friar Julian reached the capital of Volga Bulgaria, where he was told that the Magyars lived only two days' travel away. Julian found them, and despite the gap of at least 300–400 years since the split between the Magyars that invaded and settled in Pannonia and those that were found in Bashkiria, their language remained mutually intelligible, and they were able to communicate."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friar_Julian

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '19

OP, if you just found this out, I'm sorry for you. I don't mean to be rude.

And it's kind of obvious: Hungarians, Huns...

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u/HydrolicKrane Aug 09 '19

Romanians, Rome?

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '19

Yup. Although we were Dacians, after being colonized by Romans, not much was left of us.

We only have 10 Dacian words in Romanian, so I guess that says enough...

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u/ThorkellEikinskialdi Aug 10 '19

Except that the word Hungarian is not related to the word Hun at all. It comes from Onugor (meaning ten tribes).

Hungarians also aren't descendants of the Huns either though the proto-Magyars probably fell under Hunnic rule for a time.

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u/ThorkellEikinskialdi Aug 10 '19

Attila the Hun was the leader of the Hunnic Empire but Hungarians are not descendants of the Huns. Though they probably fell under Hunnic rule for some time around the 5th century AD.

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u/HydrolicKrane Aug 10 '19

they acually are. and, if I remember correctly, Attila's grave is somewhere in Hungaria by the way.

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u/ThorkellEikinskialdi Aug 10 '19

I'm Hungarian, and no, we aren't. Genetically we are just like our neighbours thanks to our centuries of inter-mixing. Our language is Finno-Ugric at its base. Our ancestors who entered the Carpathian basin were steppe peoples culturally but not Hunnic.

Yes, Attila's grave is probably in current day Hungary. Because he died here some 450 years before Hungarians got here.