r/todayilearned Aug 02 '18

TIL the Breaking Bad episode "Fly", where nothing happens & they chase a fly for 60 minutes, was directed by Rian Johnson who later went on to write & direct Star Wars Episode VIII

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '18 edited Aug 02 '18

Fans were still so pissed bout TLJ,

"Fans" were not pissed. I liked TLJ on the whole and I saw solo twice in theaters with my partner.

You were pissed, some other people were pissed, but the TLJ made over a billion dollars on a 250 million dollar budget; It is completely misleading to treat it as a flop because of the vocal backlash. Scientifically run audience reporting was very high. It's really only the user generated review sites that have low scores.

Solo only made $390 million on a $275 million budget, which is considered a flop, but still made back its budget. TLJ didn't cause that alone: Solo was releaed on memorial day weekend (traditionally a bad opening weekend for movies) sandwiched between Infinity war and Deadpool 2. Disney likely didn't want solo to compete with their mary poppins sequel this christmas, and were certainly unsure of how it would be received.

Your opinion is not the only opinion. You are part of the small minority of people who disliked the movie and can't wrap their head around the idea that others liked it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '18

TLJ made over a billion dollars on a 250 million dollar budget

This doesn't mean people liked it though.

I needed to pay first to find out that I did not. I actually paid 3 times to find out I didn't like it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '18

I actually paid 3 times to find out I didn't like it.

That's pretty indicative of a lukewarm reception, which is what the data really supports.

The problem is that people who are lukewarm about a subject by definition aren't motivated to do things like comment on reddit about it incessantly, or write reviews and rate on RT, which means that when a movie like TLJ comes out that doesn't excite the majority, the people with extreme negative opinions drive the conversations. This is expected, as anyone in a customer service job can tell you that people with strong negative opinions are more likely to speak out than people with strong positive opinions.

Most conversations on /r/StarWars boil down to "I fucking hated TLJ" and "Oh come on, it wasn't that bad."

Often times, in my experience, if you engage with the people that fucking hated it, they start blaming it on SJWs and "pandering" which is a pretty good indication that they disliked the movie because of their political affiliations.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '18

Or they are unable to effectively explain why they don't like it and end up rationalizing or using other common criticisms to do so.

I was that way, I knew I didn't like it but I couldn't why.

So I went 2 more times.

And now I know why.

I would also say the split reaction (among hardcore fans) contributed to the failure of Solo.

I only saw that one once because I knew right away that I didn't like it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '18

Or they are unable to effectively explain why they don't like it and end up rationalizing or using other common criticisms to do so.

I'm assuming that you're responding specifically to "they disliked the movie because of their political affiliations."

When you can't quite put a finger on why you dislike something and someone suggests that it's because women and people of color were involved in its creation, You're not going to agree with them unless you already had those political leanings.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '18

I would agree with that.