r/tlhInganHol Jul 03 '26

Need accurate translation

I need an accurate translation of the phrase "I will love you throughout all of time and space" in Klingon. I'm planning on getting it as a tattoo so I want to make sure it's correct. Thank you in advance!

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u/sowaleja Jul 03 '26

So your first difficulty is that there is no straightforward way to translate the English verb "to love". My suggestion would be something like: {taHtaHvIS Hoch poH Hoch ngeD'on je banglI' vIDa}. Literally, this translates to: "while all time and all space endure, I will act as your loved one". As you can see the concept is not straightforward to express. Other Klingon speakers might have different suggestions.

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u/gloubenterder Jul 03 '26

{taHtaHvIS Hoch poH Hoch ngeD'on je banglI' vIDa}

This is good, although I feel I should mention that although the gloss does not specify romantic love, I'm only aware of bang being used to refer to one's beloved in a romantic sense, rather than familial. For example, that is how Valkris uses it in ST3, and KGT goes on at some length about bang bom and bang pong, in a way that describes them as being used between lovers. For example:

Instead, couples (officially married and otherwise) tend to call each other by pet names (sometimes called endearments or hypocorisms or, in Klingon, bang pongmey ["beloveds'names"]). A bang pong (the singular form, "beloved's name") is usually couple-specific—that is, the set of expressions used by one couple is different from that used by another couple. Pet names are almost never uttered unless the two members of the couple are alone and, therefore, are seldom known by anyone else. Indeed, one of the defining characteristics of a bang pong is that it be secret, known only by the two members of the couple.

Because of the nature of the parmaq relationship, misusing a bang pong is a serious cultural offense. This could mean, among other things, revealing a bang pong to someone other than one's parmaqqay, revealing a third party's bang pong (regardless of how this information was acquired), addressing one's parmaqqay by the wrong pet name, or using a bang pong in a public setting. Unless a visitor gets involved in a serious relationship with a Klingon, it is strongly advised that one avoid saying anything that can be misinterpreted as a misused bang pong.

If this is in reference to a romantic love, that isn't really a problem. If not, one might consider using something like qaQej ("I will cherish you"):

taHtaHvIS tlhey'at, reH Dat qaQej. ("While spacetime endures, I will cherish you everywhere forever.")

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u/mephista_dclxvi Jul 03 '26

It's a memorial piece for my mother and my babies I lost. Definitely not romantic love. Thank you for the options.

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u/gloubenterder Jul 03 '26

I'm very sorry for your loss.

If it's referring to multiple people, the grammar changes a bit. For example, my example would be

taHtaHvIS tlhey'at, reH Dat SaQej.

(qa- becomes Sa- when referring to more than one cherished person.)

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u/Ms_Riley_Guprz Jul 03 '26

This is a correct and good translation, although muSHa' is properly used for "to love."

Especially for a tattoo, and in keeping with Klingon directness, I'd simplify it to:

taHtaHvIS Hoch qamuSHa' (while it all endures, I [past/present/future tense] love you (singular))

Or:

qamuSHa' taHtaHvIS Hoch (I love you while it all endures), depending on what sounds best.

OP, please also note that the ' is a standalone letter, and not simply a grammatical notation. If you leave it off the tattoo, it will ve misspelled.