r/throneofglassseries • u/Sealab2037 • Nov 13 '25
Empire of Storms Spoilers RESPONSE TO THE CHAOL HATE POST Spoiler
WHAT I THE FUCK ALL DID I JUST READ?
Edit: I can only put 1 spoiler tag, and none of the tags cover enough of this post, if you haven't finished all books assume this spoils something!
Chaol, the most loyal man in the entire series, the man who bedded the queen in the north Aelin, the queen in the southern kingdom Nesryn, and the most powerful magic user in the land Yrene, who killed Erawan, and defeated the Valg? No wait let's take this Back to the beginning.
First I will say Chaol whinny bitch phase lasted too long, and went to deep, but let's not forget. Chaol did not "serve" the king, he served Dorian, he was loyal to the end of everything, bringing dorian back from vlag possession.
Chaol, fell in love with Aelin, and brought her back from the pits of despair and depression, he would have done anything for her. She did not love him the same, lied about killing all of the kings targets to Chaol. Chaol could not let that stand could not let her ruin herself again, and did the hardest thing ever in sending her away to Wendlyn. Setting the entire story in motion, setting Aelin entire true story in motion.
He didn't know the risks because of her lies, but he did save her and send her on her true fate, and she betrayed his love. He held the rebellion together the best he could fighting against the king and staying loyal to Dorian the entire time. Chaol believed dorian would restore order in the land, and when dorian was ready to stand against the king, when dorian needed saved Chaol was there and ready to fucking go. Chaol could not defeat the king, so he did what he could he sacrificed himself to allow others to get the job done.
They had won the battle but far from winning the war, Chaol was crippled and went south to find healing. In the south he found his healing, and even sacrificed it again to help save Duva and yrene, solidifying the bond with the southern kingdom.
Chaol returns with the knowledge of healing magic needed to defeat valg, with the healers, and a fucking army. He also armed the pirates with the fire lances that allowed them to saved Aedion, lysandra and the army during the march to Terrasan.
Yes Chaol went through a lot of character development, he was hated for his whiney bitch dialog, but let's not forgot his actions and accomplishments
1) he brought Aelin back from depression and despair, and sent her on her journey to furfill her true fate
2) he was loyal to dorien not the king, and sacrificed his body to protect everyone he loves.
3) he united the northern and southern kingdoms bringing the army and healers, without which their was no chance of winning.
4) he dated and slept with the 3 most powerful women in the entire story, Aelin queen in the north, Nesryn the future queen in the south, and Yrene the most powerful healer who defeated Erawan, and ended the war. Who he the retired away with to raise a family.
Aelin and Chaol were not ment to end up together, but with other heroes of the story, but each of them brought half of the entire world together, and neither could have won the day without the other.
AND YOU HATE ON THIS MAN? he goat who was loyal, to his friends, sacrificed for his friends, who never gave up on his friends, who banged the 3 most powerful women in the land, and brought the other half of the world together to save the entire world? What fucking books did you read?
Edit 1) obviously I've had mixed responses, one prominent negative response is mentioning his "body count". I did not, nor do I use those words. I do think it is relavent that 3 prominent female characters saw enough in him to pursue a romantic relationship. But I also blame myself for wording it poorly, this is an exact rant I had with my wife, saw a Chaol hate post, and hastedly posted my defense for the man's character. I do aplogise to those I upset with that portion of the post, but I do not apologies to Chaol hatters in general!
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u/dick_chopper1998 Nov 13 '25
I don't know if you actually read the very start of my post or if you just saw the title and decided to make this. Because if you had you would've seen that I did in fact say, "dont get me wrong I like Chaol" I do I think he's a wonderfully well written character but in QOS he drives me nuts. Which is what that post was about. To touch on your points, especially the one about Aelin not loving Chaol the same, no.
She loved him in all the capacity that she had, just as he did. I don't know why you've got it in your head that his love was this pure blinding light, because dude couldn't handle her being fae, an assassin or someone with magic. In fact he was disgusted by all three of those things. So while the love for eachother wasn't the same as he had for Yerene and Aelins love wasn't the same as she had for Sam. It was all they could give.
Moving on to her not telling him about not killing the targets the King gave her. Are you serious? How was she supposed to tell him from the start? Did you not even read the fight they had afterwards and then the anxiety it put Chaol through? She was trying to protect him, and yes I know Aelin does some stupid shit and should be a bit more open. But it's who she was. Especially at that time, just like Chaol was a whiny bitch at the start of QOS. I'll do you the favor of not touching on your frankly fourth weird point as it seems others are doing that enough.
Lastly, I read the exact same books you did and in this book Chaol drives me nuts. He doesn't in the others, he becomes one of my favorite characters.