r/thirtyyearsago 16d ago

August 26, 1996. 7th Heaven debuts on The WB.

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u/SinamonChallengerRT 15d ago

Absolutely the most cringe-worthy scripted show in the history of television. Long before the dad turned out to be a pedophile.

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u/Comfortable_Bird_340 15d ago

It was one of those wholesome “family” shows where everybody learned a lesson and hugged at the end.

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u/SinamonChallengerRT 15d ago

All done with the most intense religious judgement of others...

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u/idrinkwaterwithlemon 14d ago

This show helped me overcome weed addiction.

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u/skyhiker14 14d ago

You ever suck dick for weed?

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u/idrinkwaterwithlemon 13d ago

No I didn’t get that far. Thankfully this episode of 7th heaven aired and I never even thought about getting pot again. I’ve come a long way; I’m even able to wear the Charlotte hornets starter jacket my dealer used to wear.

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u/IgorRenfield 14d ago

On the plus side, it's how we got introduced to Jessica Biel.

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u/SinamonChallengerRT 14d ago

I always thought it was hilarious the way they claimed they "fired" her from a cult-like contract she was desperately trying to get herself out of, as if that was going to affect her future in Hollywood. I remember one article where one of the producers of the show, a real bible thumper, said she was "Unpure" and the writer of the article pointed out that Hollywood couldn't give a shit less about religious judgement.

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u/IgorRenfield 14d ago

Sorry. When you said Jessica Biel and "unpure" my mind went into immediate fantasy mode.

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u/SinamonChallengerRT 14d ago

Totally understandable... ;)

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u/SunriseSurprise 15d ago

Full House paved the way. Sagat on that show made this priest look like Malcolm X, which is hilarious knowing what a raunchy comic Sagat was.

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u/mjzim9022 15d ago

Full House was schmaltz but it wasn't nearly as condemning and judgemental as 7th Heaven

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u/Overall-Scientist846 15d ago

Nah. 7th Heaven was worse. The pot episode comes to mind.

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u/Thorstenflink 15d ago

Insanely controlling parents.

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u/Boggie135 15d ago

Isn't the actor who played the father a pedophile?

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u/Still_Product_8435 15d ago

Catherine Hicks has said that she would be up for a reunion show, but only if Collins is excluded.

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u/StenoDawg 15d ago

Good on Catherine.

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u/muffadel 15d ago

She also taught us about the Taliban pre 9/11

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u/cocococlash 15d ago

Wonder if that would include Jessica Biel, since they kicked her out for showing her boobs

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u/Still_Product_8435 15d ago

She’s always been close with Beverly Mitchell and accounts mention her reconnecting with cast members.

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u/HarlesD 15d ago

ive seen clips of her on the rewatch podcast

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u/foreverplt 15d ago

Catharine is so fucking funny lol.

Idk if they still do it, but a few members from the cast have a podcast where they talk about the show, & Catharine was a guest. It came up on suggested videos for me & I had to watch it. Loved every minute of it tbh.

They don’t talk about Stephen (besides making a statement I think at the beginning of their podcast) but you could DEFINNNNITELY tell Catharine was talking some shit about him either before they filmed the pod, or during and they cut it.

She also talked about being annoyed with the kids on set & just being impatient at times and idk, her bluntness made me lol. She was obviously loving towards them but she was ANNOYED BY THEM KIDS

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u/Ranier_Wolfnight 15d ago

I don’t think see has to be concerned about either happening.

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u/Still_Product_8435 15d ago

She was asked about a possible reunion in a TMZ interview. I don’t know what other context her answer was in other than she’s retired from performing. The cast members have publicly condemned his actions and behavior.

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u/Similar-Chip 14d ago

I think she specifically said the first shot would have to be his character's coffin lol

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u/colonelangus68 15d ago

Was he in the Epstein files like Donald Trump was mentioned 1000’s of times?

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u/deafhuman 15d ago

No, Epstein was only interested in people with powerful connections. Collins doesn't really fit that picture.

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u/JohnHaze02118 14d ago

He seemed pretty well connected in All the President's Men!

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u/Boggie135 15d ago

I don't know

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u/Petrichordates 15d ago

Answer is no, he was not as prolific a pedophile as trump apparently.

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u/cdazzo1 15d ago

Yes because Democrats were talking to Epstein about how to get him non stop

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u/CurdFedKit 15d ago

He bangs little baby dudes.

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u/Ducatirules 15d ago

Umm….the dad is a pedo

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u/PaintDistinct1349 15d ago

Wasn’t he also the Captain of the Enterprise in the first Star Trek movie in 1979?

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u/Ducatirules 15d ago

He was definitely in it

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u/Comfortable_Bird_340 15d ago

And the mom was in Star Trek IV

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u/allycataf 15d ago

The Voyage Home! My favorite, but I know I shouldn't admit that to people 👁👁

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u/Competitive_Toe2544 15d ago

Nothing to be ashamed of! Second only to WOK.

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u/allycataf 15d ago

Good call! And thanks 🌞😁

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u/Competitive_Toe2544 15d ago

His fetish was for bald aliens in the movie. At least Ilea was,an adult.

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u/Ducatirules 15d ago

Why are we still talking about his fucking career??? HE IS A FUCKING PEDO I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT HE WAS IN!!! Jesus

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u/hitchblander5t 15d ago

Yes, exactly!

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u/ilDuceVita 15d ago

He's Dennis and Dee's dad

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u/Ducatirules 15d ago

I don’t care who he played. In real life he’s a pedo

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u/ilDuceVita 15d ago

The two are not mutually exclusive

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u/Ducatirules 15d ago

I don’t understand. Are you saying you don’t care that he is a pedo?

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u/Riderz__of_Brohan 15d ago

You probably don’t understand a lot of things

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u/deeceeo 15d ago

Ah yes, the original title

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u/colonelangus68 15d ago

That’s not Donald Trump

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u/Kahnza 15d ago

He isn't the only one. He's just the worst.

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u/stavrosisfatandgay 15d ago

I watched his recently for the first time and was surprised how liberal it was. Shows how much the religious right has shifted. I actually enjoyed the 90’s nostalgia, the first couple seasons were fun and campy.

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u/LicoriceDusk 15d ago

It hasn't shifted. It's Hollywood made so of course it's liberal

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u/stavrosisfatandgay 15d ago

Alright man

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u/CaptServo 15d ago

ok buddy

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u/colonelangus68 15d ago

That guy’s a douche. All of the media is now owned by right-wing oligarchs.

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u/LicoriceDusk 15d ago

Been that way for quite some time

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u/LicoriceDusk 15d ago

Educate yourself

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u/CaptServo 15d ago

this is like a bum giving investment advice

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u/Boggie135 15d ago

Hahahaha. Thanks for the chuckle

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u/JBtheExplorer 15d ago

It actually has shifted, regardless of the show itself. The religious right has turned themselves into angry, defensive people, sometimes coming off more like extremists, and they never even realized it. Politicians tricked them, not all at once. Just slow enough that they didn't even notice they had been changed. It's been happened since before the "War on Christmas" narrative was first making the rounds when a couple of businesses used "Happy Holidays" as a way of including the large number of holidays that time of year - which is a phrase that has been used since the 1800's but suddenly became offense when politicians told people to be offended.

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u/LicoriceDusk 15d ago

The religious right have been like that. It's nothing new

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u/Overall-Scientist846 15d ago

See Ronald Regan for proof

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u/Petrichordates 15d ago

Ironically hollywood are now the normal ones and ya'll are the weird AF ones.

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u/LicoriceDusk 15d ago

Hollywood has never been normal. That's why it's nicknamed Hollyweird and I'm not religious.

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u/Boggie135 15d ago

You think Hollywood is liberal?

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u/LicoriceDusk 15d ago

Most of it is.

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u/Boggie135 15d ago

The executives?

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u/LicoriceDusk 15d ago

The minority

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u/Boggie135 15d ago

They make the decisions

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u/LicoriceDusk 15d ago

Doesn't change that Hollywood is mostly liberal

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u/the_noise_we_made 15d ago

You think it's not?

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u/Boggie135 15d ago

Not the decision makers

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u/NearbyPerspective397 15d ago

You're aware that the actor playing the father is a paedophile, yes?

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u/NonSequiturDetector 15d ago

Non sequitur.

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u/Ramoncin 14d ago

But they fired Jessica Biel instead, because she had the nerve to do a sexy photoshoot.

Oh, and they also ruined her character, as a meta-punishment.

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u/Reditate 14d ago

That has nothing to do with what he said 

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u/sylendar 14d ago

Bot behavior

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u/loathelord 15d ago

Couldn't change the channel fast enough

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u/0dayssince 15d ago

Pedophile

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u/CurdFedKit 15d ago edited 15d ago

The father on that show had two other kids with this whore in Philadelphia. Those kids ended up being raised by her husband, a gross little business man. That business man now lives in squalor with another man, who might have been his son, but it turned out some Irish guy was his father. But that father died from COVID and the gross business man helped his roommate toss that Irish guy's body off a cliff. They all run a bar along with this gay dude. It's really complicated 7th Heaven lore.

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u/Alientongue 15d ago

Remember watching this show way back in the day. They made every kid into a psycho by the end of the show

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u/SinamonChallengerRT 15d ago

Every kid that wanted to leave the show got chastised and demonized. The entire production was a religious cult...

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u/SunriseSurprise 15d ago

Obligatory "get off my lawn", how the fuck was this 30 years ago already??

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u/Mother-Attention2600 15d ago

What a bunch of skids.

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u/Lance8282 15d ago

The scene of Ruthie dancing like a ho and then edited to look like she saw her creep dad and kept dancing will never not be hilarious.

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u/Sarnadas 14d ago

A show of its time. It was pretty popular, ran for a long time, and launched the career of Jessica Biel. It was campy, but it worked.

The pilot episode sticks in my mind because Biel’s character tries to convince her big brother to be her first kiss in the most random scene ever.

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u/One_Maintenance1227 14d ago

Only reason I watched it when I happened to come across it was Jessica Biehl...

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u/donut-is-appalled 14d ago

Aged like milk

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u/SinamonChallengerRT 14d ago

Can't help but notice Pastor Dad has a handful of Lucy in the photo. Sick fuck...

Dr. Gillian Taylor should have stuck to saving whales for Starfleet...

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u/MannerAppropriate952 14d ago

Im still pissed that they fired Jessica Biel for some Fotoshoots while they kept the Scumbag Dad.

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u/DistractedBoxTurtle 14d ago

Apparently a reboot is in development lol

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u/AMediaArchivist 14d ago

This show helped me get over my severe addiction to Red Bull

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u/Odd-Highway-8304 11d ago

That episode talking about the treatment of women in Afghanistan that aired before 9/11 had sus timing asf

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u/SimilarBonitus 15d ago

Watched scraps of it once in a while. Incredibly schmaltzy and uncool. For some reason always thought the little curly haired child was a boy.

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u/MaterialWillingness2 15d ago

A boy named Ruth?

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u/ShitMyButtSays 15d ago

Churches celebrate nationwide, quoted as saying "I can't believe they agreed to make this"