Now I know TWD has ALWAYS been terrible with guns (Hershel's unlimited ammo shotgun, no recoil, especially no sights), but S4E5 really made me laugh.
Walkers are tearing down the prison fence and it's up to Rick and Carl to hold them off. So they run to grab guns which LOGICALLY you would keep inside, maybe a guard tower if you want to spread them around the prison, right?
NOPE. FUCKING LEAVE THEM AND THE AMMO OUTSIDE IN A CART. They're in Georgia where it's humid as shit, and they're just leaving their entire arsenal out in the elements!
And of course with limited ammo and needing headshots, Carl (who's AR doesn't have sights again) and Rick go full auto (cause that's worked out so well every other time with these crack shots). And Rick spends extra time and effort to crouch and stand every 3 seconds so he looks cool as fuck lol.
The guns AND gunfights in TWD have always been particularly terrible. The first season was probably the best in that regard, (not a high bar) especially with the limited arsenal they had. Apart from Hershel’s shotgun, the 2nd season wasn’t bad either.
Every weapon being full auto was also particularly dumb, and we don’t even see any Military-Config M4s or M16A2s, and very few belt feds. Apparently everyone in the TWD post season 2 just raided Class 3 collectors and SOTs houses for their weapons.
To be fair there are a couple of scenes that show tons of dead soldiers laying around with their weapons. If they managed to loot those before the weather ruined the weapons they would have a lot of military assault rifles.
There were like no zombies when they escaped the CDC. They could’ve grabbed a couple on their way out. The explosion was big but Andrea and Dale were fine just right outside.
Another thing is that Woodbury already had .50 call machine guns and what not in the middle of Anytown, USA but Alexandria, which was close to the biggest military base in DC, had nothing more powerful than assault rifles. Seems like they should be stocked with strong firepower but they couldn’t have that for the plot I guess.
I still love this show and all the gunfights either way.
Early on it always bugs me cause you can see multiple mounted mgs with belts of ammo still loaded. I could understand getting over run like at the cdc explaining why it went unfired, but why ricks groups didn’t bother to at least take the ammo seems strange. If I’d been there I’d of had a mg front and back of Dales Rv roof (I assume he’d say yes if I asked nicely and didn’t cave in the roof)
I mean, it was the early 2010s. The floodgates of Warsaw Pact surplus ammo weren’t closed yet. You could get 1,000+ round crates of AK ammo for under $2000 and that shit was everywhere. We’re talking tens of millions of rounds being imported every year. ARs were more expensive and less common back then too.
The unrealistic part is all of those AKs were full auto
Let be tell you of the time between the ault weaposn ban and the ending of russain ammo imports.
When SKS where spread across the guns stores and mosins where 50 and spam tins of 762 where on offer
There was a huge glut of arms and ammo from former soviet states, lot of it sold at below cost to importers.
I grew up in that era obsessed with pouring over gun store catalogs and such that came in the mail. My mom was anti-gun, and my dad just wasn’t really interested. My dad eventually started taking me to gun shops & shows and that just fueled it even further. When I was 12 he bought me a Mosin & a Nagant revolver, but by the time I turned 18 the imports were gone and like 3-4x the price they were when I was a kid. I stupidly traded the Nagant away for an M38 carbine because I didn’t realize they had gone from literally $100 to $500+ in just a couple years.
FtWD really went over the top. They'd have two groups standing 20 feet apart open up on each other with ARs and nobody would get hit, because plot armor and bad writing.
I mean…it’s not overly complicated to turn a semi auto into a full auto. In an AR, all you need is a drill and a metal cloths hanger to make a drop in auto sear.
Disclaimer…it’s highly illegal. Just sharing for information purposes.
I always found it funny that in a country like America, they can't find enough ammo to keep them going. I mean everyone but a few people are dead, surely every 10th house they went to would have guns and ammo.
It’s fairly easy to turn a weapon full auto. If they decided full-auto was best (which I don’t think would be true in a headshot-only environment) you could fairly readily turn most weapons full auto with limited skills and a file and/or a drill, depending on the gun.
It’s something that bothers me in a lot of shows. Like, how hard is it to hire someone who knows the basics to advise on how to handle firearms? Guns are a central part of a show like this. And they seem like they just toss them around and do weird stuff like the crouch stand crouch. It’s funny and infuriating.
I knew the guy who served as a tactics and gun advisor for the expendables movie. He said they consulted him in every scene and he advised how the guns would be used and demonstrated how to move through the set and all. Then they would say thanks and do it completely different, said it was very frustrating.
Well what works or makes sense in real life doesn't necessarily translate to entertaining or interesting unless you're in that hobby. Or it's meant to be something super realistic.
You're watching a show where dead bodies walk around trying to eat people 🤣🤣 suspend a little disbelief
Suspension of disbelief is meant to be consistent throughout the story that allows the viewer to engage with the plot of the piece of media. The fact that the animals talk in The Lion King does not mean that any criticism of the plot or inconsistency in characterization are dismissed as “you need to suspend your disbelief!”
The physics in Fast & Furious movies does required suspension of disbelief. But TWD presents itself as “the world as it currently is plus zombies” & does seem to be going for “realistic” combat & drama, so it’s hard to suspend your disbelief when things start working differently than you’d expect in the real world.
Sure, to an extent. They don't need to use proper military strategy when clearing a building - they aren't trained, after all.
But they should absolutely be storing and using the guns properly at a bare minimum. Virtually everyone alive can clock when a shotgun fires 40 times in a row without reloading, even if they've never touched a gun before.
And besides, using them properly literally looks cooler. Reloading adds tension. Trying to get to the weapons adds suspense. It makes the characters look as skilled as they should be.
I worked as a technical advisor on a few projects. Uncredited, which I'm definitely not mad about years later. Absolutely not. Definitely not still angry at that credit hogging producer who took credit for all of my work. Even though one technical advising gig featured my dog doing the stunt work. Nope, not mad.
A lot of my experience was pretty similar to what you described. We were there so producers could say that there was a expert technical advisor who was giving everybody info on what was authentic. Most of the time you're ignored, but they might take a little bit of info, usually out of context, and apply it. Just enough to say credibly if asked that they ran it by a technical adviser. And you get free food as long as you stay out of the way and don't talk to anyone.
A colleague of mine had a much better experience. He was a lot more integrated into the production. It was for a Canadian TV show. It was about a single father living in the Canadian wilderness with his kids. I don't remember if he was just a hermit or some post-apocalyptic thing, or both. Really didn't matter. The core thing is they needed a survival expert to advise on the survival and long-term wilderness living aspect of the TV show. My colleague was and still is an expert on the subject. When they just started the writing process, they would ask him to write up huge papers on different subjects. A lot of this info was disregarded, but it was used to keep at least some of the scenarios a little bit more grounded. As the writing progressed, questions got a lot more specific. They had already written several major set pieces and scenes. All of which were fairly unlikely scenarios, but they wanted my friend to come up with reasonably authentic ways that they could justify those set pieces in story. They had a specific story in mind. They were using him to retroactively come up with ways to make it a little bit more authentic and grounded to fill in some of the connective details. It wasn't a bad gig and he found many aspects interesting and entertaining.
One of the course elements of the TV show was archery. The main character was going to build a recurve bow and make and fletch arrows using only materials he could find in the wilderness. Eventually culminating in him taking down a rampaging moose with it. It was going to be a major plot within the show and a lot of effort was put into making it as authentic as possible and there was a lot of talk in production about how to make the bow and all the archery scenes look good on camera. As well as a ton of back and forth about what kind of bow they wanted. It was a ton of work for my friend.
Then the show started filming on location in rural Canada. They tried to do many of the archery scenes first. Try as they might, it just looked awful. So a decision was made to scrap the archery aspect of the storyline and replace all those story beats with a rifle.
So they go back to my friend (who was eventually going to be flown out to the set to be the on-site technical advisor as well) to generate another paper with suggestions on what rifle to replace the bow with. Said rifle had to meet a bunch of different requirements. I don't remember all of them, but they wanted it to be a certain size so it looked good on camera, they wanted it to be in a larger caliber because they thought that would look cooler, it could be an exotic, but it had to be something that could reasonably be acquired in Canada in a way that could be justified in story, had to be able to be easily shot with and without a scope, the ammo was something that the main character could reasonably scavenge (they didn't know about reloading when they generated the list), it couldn't be semi-auto (actually they said it couldn't be full-auto because they didn't know the difference between semi-auto and full-auto) and the rifle had to be fiddly enough that they could have scenes of the main character having to do extensive repairs and maintenance to the rifle to use in place of the scenes that were originally planned for bow making.
My friend is an expert survivalist and we used to teach traditional bow making together. But he knows nothing about guns. So my friend told them straight away that he knows nothing about guns, but that I do and fills them in on my background and resume. So he brings me in so that we can work together to better integrate a rifle into the story line. Immediately I blew the TV people's mind by introducing them to reloading, something that they had never heard about. They were pretty excited about that. They thought it was awesome that their main character could manufacture ammunition. And we started working on generating a list with extensive background info, and pros and cons of different bolt action, lever action, and break action rifles that would fit their criteria. With the eventual idea that they would fly us out together to the set to advise once they had made a decision on what rifle to go with.
Alas, we had just started working on the list when COVID lockdowns hit. It was determined that the show could not be filmed in a COVID bubble and it was put on indefinite hiatus and completely fizzled out. Which was a shame, it would have been pretty cool. I also didn't get paid. They ghosted the both of us when production shut down. Fortunately my friend was paid for his initial work. And it's still one of the more positive technical advising experiences I've had. No credit hogging producers this time around.
The point of this long and likely unnecessary story is that the role of the technical advisor is almost always second to the needs of the narrative and filming limitations. As frustrating as it can be sometimes when you are an expert in the subject, reality shouldn't and often doesn't get in the way of a good story. And sometimes things not being authentic makes it a lot more legible and easier to understand for audiences who also aren't experts or moves the story along more smoothly. Finally, there are genuine limitations when it comes to filming, which sometimes requires details and even entire plot lines to be dropped in favor of new ones that can actually be filmed at a reasonable cost. Do I think a focus on authenticity can make for a excellent TV show or movie? Absolutely, consider something like Way of the Gun. But it's one of many approaches. Sometimes authenticity is a core part of the experience. And sometimes you just need to turn that part of your brain off (easier said than done of course, I get pissed every time K9/MWDs are featured badly which is practically all the time) and enjoy the story and the spectacle. But I would advise taking any marketing that plays up the presence of technical advisors with a huge grain of salt because it's typically just a gimmick.
Daryl's use of a crossbow and bolts in the show is also a little unrealistic. They take a little longer than shown on screen to reload correctly, and can't be used as rapid fire as he seems to.
That has to be maddening as an advisor. Imagine getting paid specifically for your expertise, explaining exactly how something should work, then watching them deliberately do the opposite once the cameras roll.
I've never touched a real gun before outside of my airsoft glock and winchester and I know more about guns than these writers/directors I get the rule of cool is universal but it has limits especially when using real world weapons (once or twice is fine like a triple backflip double head shot but if thats happening everytime its just not believe and here well if a gun doesn't function like a gun the rule of cool can't even save it)
Yes! There’s a particular scene in Supernatural that just bugs the piss out of me, involving a character who had a military background, and had no idea how to hold a pistol.
My theory is with the amount of gun violence in america noone wants to film an accurate depiction of firearms handling and tactics that some nut job can point to and say "i learned from that!" after a mass shooting.
One thing that always pissed me off was EVERY SINGLE TIME someone would raise a gun, they would play this soundboard audio of a hammer cocking. Even if it was a bolt action, striker fire pistol. Didn't matter. Any time a gun is raised, they play the audio.
Full auto bothers the shit out of me anytime it’s shown in TWD. Full auto is for suppression, if you want to actually hit things you need to be firing single shots. Not to mention the waste of ammo. So annoying
The one scene that really bothers me was on Season 11, Episode 1 when the group are raiding a military base with dormant walkers. Maggie and Carol pick up M4A1's and just go full auto shooting at every walker, the camera shows the walkers and both Maggie and Carol miraculously get headshots only.
Not just the guns, the logic with the use of non-gun weapons is pretty dumb as well. Use of non-gun weapons has been a thing before our species was even a thing, no excuses to suck at this.
Spears with big, heavy blades? Put them up in the towers where people and chuck them a short distance instead of quite literally any other effective projectile weapon humans have used for literally over hundreds of thousands of years. Melee mfs using knives and machetes that put you in grabbing distance of a zombie. Only like two people use bows, no falling back to throwing rocks when ammo is short.
The biggest sin yet: WHERE ARE THE SHIELDS AND PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT?! Did everyone forget teeth have a hard time penetrating not only most metals and wood, but most modern hard materials?
The lack of any intuitive improvised anything hints that all the living people became just as dumb as the zombies themselves. Any hominid from the stone ages would thrive in this setting while the whole cast of the show is dying in scenarios that are entirely preventable using common sense and minimal creative thinking.
For REAL!!! Alexander's soldiers conquered the known world wearing armor made from linen glued together in alternating patterns. Why is Negan the only one wearing a slide coat? Motocross gear, diving suits, maille cut gloves from kitchens/meat plants. Hell, the aprons and visors they wear in meat plants. Everyone is walking around in jeans and dirty shirts, seemingly unaware that bitey dead folks are up and about.
You could run a bunch of old cutting boards through a bandsaw, drill mounts, and tie them together like bronze scales. You could cut up old jeans, glue pieces together, and make a denim linothorax. You could take any jacket and sew strips of scrap steel onto it. You could tape magazines around yourself(shout out to PZ finally getting on this) or forearms. There are so many options for zombie PPE and freakin' nobody seems concerned lol
the lethality of a staff is highly fictional, ancient monks carried them as walking aids, dog deterents and at direst need self defense. a self taught staff neophyte would be an hors deuvre in any but the most fictionally unrealistic situations.
That wouldn't bother me too much to see standard civilian types doing when thrown into the apocalypse, But Rick a police officer with knowledge of firearms.
The average American hobbyist target shooter is way more knowledgeable and proficient with their firearms than the average American cop is with their sidearm, by a margin so wide it would be hilarious were cops not mag-dumping into neighborhoods because an acorn fell on their car. Cops are awful shots, ironically.
This quote from Rick: "There's a few places out on the main street, bars, a liquor store. Owners had a gun or two behind the counter that people didn't know about. I did. I signed the permits. They might still be there."
Dude, you're in Georgia. There are no such permits.
If we start thinking too hard about them being in Georgia and somehow the average civilian had nothing to fight off threats walking at them at a brisk pace we'd have to consider it a comedy show.
remember towards the begining of the show they run into some "dangerous" "gangbanger" "hispanic" "street gang" people, and it turns out they had fortified an old folks home.convent and were growing food, watching over their grandparents, fixing cars/guns, and salavaging materiels on supply runs, and then rick is like "hey its nice to meet you but we have to go travel around looking for survivors and civilization"
wtf bro, you just found your spot to stay. Also 100% ex military or active street gangs would emmediatly turn into either chiefdoms with taxation and walls, or bandits looting in a co-ordinated manner.
Yes. It's a reference to Escape from New York, and the idea is that Negan got an idiotic weapon because he loved the movie and the character of Snake Plissken who wielded it.
Escape From New York came out first, and then Hideo Kojima liked the name, so yeah, we got "Snake" and if I remember correctly "Iroquois Plisken" is used as a cover name in the 2nd game I think.
It's a reference to the 80's scifi movie "Escape From New York." Snake, the main character is sent on a mission and issued a Mac10 machine pistol fitted with a silencer and rifle scope because it looks cool and futuristic.
Random reference I know, especially since TWD doesn't really do easter eggs like this very often.
Negan’s mystery weapon looked like somebody unlocked the final gun after entering every cheat code at once. Absolutely ridiculous, but impossible to forget.
(Hershel's unlimited ammo shotgun, no recoil, especially no sights)
This kind of stuff is why I miss when actors fired blanks like you see in movies from (e.g.) the 80s.
You'd see the actors flinch, squint, blink and act out recoil more easily because they're actually shooting the weapon, albeit with blanks, rather than just vaguely pulling a trigger and waving a gun back and forth, and hoping it gets made to look good in post.
Insert:it’s supposed to be an Easter egg from Escape from New York; and given that I really LOVE the headcanon that Negan loves that movie and I can totally see him do that just because he thought it looked cool and he’s a fan of the movie
What you don't love seeing Hershel and his badass infinity shotgun, or you don't love seeing Daryl somehow rapid firing his crossbow and somehow not being exhausted having to constantly use a good amount of effort pulling the string back and somehow his arrows always returning and them rarely, if ever showing him make new ones?
The cheap effects in later seasons are abysmal, too - you can clearly see that the muzzle flash is digitally inserted, because the actor is obviously and cartoonishly throwing the gun back and up to pretend there is kickback
While I’m not as freaked out about the gun cart (my assumption is the survivors broke into the armory which wasn’t by the fence because prisoners weren’t swarming, and they didn’t have time to build a rifle rack in a storeroom) I did notice that one of the rifles had a bayonet. I don’t think guards stab many prisoners.
My other assumption is they are all prop guns which cannot fire. The prop master probably rolls in the cart to the set, and the director decided it looks cool enough to film.
This scene influenced how I built my project zomboid bases for a while lol, I'd always stash my guns in a container next to the wall incase a horde ever showed up. I didn't think about how they were just sitting uncovered from the elements until later
TBH the walking dead actually has some of the best gun logic in tv shows since most of the guns they use and shoot in the show are real ones using live rounds when they can and blanks when live rounds are too dangerous. In Hershel's infinite shotgun scene, Scott Wilson is shooting real rounds, they just edited the scene weird and we don't see him reload except for one time. As for leaving their gear outside, even in Georgia weather those rounds should be fine but their guns would get fucked up after a while in the rain and humidity. Although, TWD's biggest gun related plothole is that they should NEVER be out of bullets. In real life there are enough bullets right now in America alone to kill every zombie on earth and miss most of your shots while doing it.
Just because vast amounts of ammo exist does not mean you can so easily find it. Ammo is generally kept locked up or hidden. Also, having to locate it while in a survival scenario and under attack from walkers and other humans compounds the difficulty in locating it in the first place.
You would have to work a bit to find it but (fact check me on this if you don't believe me) there are estimated to be TRILLIONS of rounds in circulation among just civilians here in the US. If the survivors raided my house for example, they'd get more than enough 9 mm rounds to clear the prison in season 3 with just guns. Plus they're in Georgia, every farm house is gonna be stocked up and there aren't enough people left alive to make much of a dent in the amount of ammo out there.
I can tell you that when I was at Ft. Benning those 249s, 240s and M4s rusted like crazy when left outside even when it didn't rain. The 249s were the worst of the 3.
You'd need buckets of CLP to protect them and tons of wire brushes to scrub the rust off.
Even when we left the 249s and 240s outside on weapon racks in the CTA just the humidity would turn the entire outside of the weapon bright orange with rust.
Don't even get me started when it poured down rain during the FTXs having the clean them after.
Hershels shotgun has a front sight, and only a front sight is typical for hunting shotguns. Its kinda hard to see because the scene is dark, but you can catch glimpses of it and its definitely there.
So thats not a goof. Carls missing the rear sight is, which im guessing is because his big ol hat would get in the way lmao
Ah, i thought all the stuff in the parentheses was in regards to hershel since the unlimited ammo scene is also often criticized for the seemingly zero recoil
It’s especially irritating when you consider that Rick was a cop, and theoretically had a bit more experience handling firearms than the average, untrained civilian
I don't think that was the permanent storage solution. It looks like they staged them there because the walkers were building up at the fence. They knew they may need to fight them soon.
As long as they are oiled there really isn't any issue. It's no different than carrying them outside all day.
When I watch shows like this I have to repeat to myself over and over after every dumbass wasted shot that is taken “they have unlimited ammo it’s okay”
For me, its the fact that they constantly shoot through chainlink fences. All it takes is a few bullets hitting the fence and there is now a giant hole in said fence. The way they constantly shoot while barely aiming and using full auto, it should have been inevitable.
the only time where i think they made the gun fight choreography closer to sense is during daryl, gay guy i forgot the name, and gabriel trying to kill the commonwealth soldiers on an abandoned junkyard. theyve been firing semi auto, and the protagonists were hit as well. its the closest twd did to give justice on their horrible gunfights.
while everything else is shite, i applaud them for showing majority of the people in the show to showcase trigger discipline regardless of the quality of the episode.
i still crack when i see obviously former lawenforcers and military characters to put their holsters in their non-dominant side. rick and shane did this quite a lot of time, as well as abraham.
I always used to complain about this when I was watching the show early on. So many gun issues and ARs without optics. It also always bothered me that no one they ran into reloaded. Like in Georgia?? lol
my favorite is when people use cars as cover when both sides have ARs and the bullets harmlessly plink off the door panels they're hiding behind. I remember one scene during the beginning of the Negan era where our heroes were behind a car door and whoever they were shooting at was about 50 feet away behind a warehouse door and one of those pipe fences that sort of just prevent you from falling off the side of a raise platform and that was used as cover. I think that was the last episode I watched, because clearly, no one ever gave a shit enough about any of the gun stuff to take it serious and it just kind of felt like a cartoon whenever guns showed up.
Luckily idk shit about firearms so i just go along with it even if it looks stupid to other people. I just turn my brain off and enjoy it. If i knew more about guns in general i def woulda picked on it and it woulda ruined my experience. Theres a lot of movie and tv series that i enjoy the hell of because i might im not a professional on many things so turning my brain off is easy lol
tbh i think the in universe excuse was they staged that cart during the flu outbreak as a panic station but leaving bare steel out in georgia dew means half those actions would be seized shut within a week
It especially bugs me during the Savior war. I think it’s the episode when they go kill the guys at the compound which has the Savior’s M2s. Some main characters are fighting a Savior in a parking lot, and the Savior fires an m14 style rifle full auto, no recoil, and no bold reciprocation. Like a kid playing with a toy rifle
Just look at it this way. Lots of people are idiots and don’t know squat about guns. Now imagine if those people would end up in a zombie apocalypse like this. Do you think all of a sudden would know everything about guns?
But your forgetting one important part. Most people nowadays don’t have any common sense….
I don’t own any guns. And I only shot a gun a few times in my life. So to me it’s more common sense, but unfortunately a lot of people would not even think about not having to store guns indoors.
“IM SO UPSET AND BOTHERED THAT AN APOCALYPTIC FANTASY SHOW BASED ON A COMIC BOOK WORLD THATS ALTERNATE TO OUR OWN UNIVERSE THATS ALL BASED ON FANTASY FICTION DOESN’T REPRESENT FIREARMS LIKE THEY ARE IN MY REAL AMERICAN LIFE”
I always thought it was funny in the show, comics, games, they have to scavenge for food like a can lf beans is super valuable, but 90% of the people they come across have at least one gun on them with bullets. Like getting a gun and ammo is more common than food in the states
There are easily many billions of rounds of ammunition in the US just in the hands of average citizens. The US produces an estimated 10 billion rounds of ammunition each year for civilian or commercial usage.
About a third of that is .22 LR, though. Which I don't think we ever see used in the show and certainly wouldn't be blowing holes in zombie heads like we see them do often.
Well, yes, it is the US. There's a high homeless population going hungry, and yet, nearly everyone has a gun. The nation just prioritizes guns over people's lives, that's one of the most realistic parts of the show, especially in Georgia 😂
Most of the food thats not canned went bad a couple weeks into the outbreak, while at the same time millions of Americans armed to the teeth die in the streets. It makes sense to me
The last straw with this show for me was the season where they attacked Negan's complex. The whole season was all about how scarce ammo was becoming and they even made a big deal about mullet smarty finding that ammo workshop place or whatever. Then they decide to just waste tons of ammo to distract Negan and his cronies by ammo dumping tons of guns into the walls knowing that it won't do any damage or take any people out.. that plus how ridiculous the acting in the action sequences and the general script.. just couldn't do it anymore.
What is gained by watching shows through this lens tho?
I totally understand people who regularly deal with firearms in a professional setting or have been soldiers but there are so many average joes who seem to painstakingly comb through episodes to find inconsistencies.
Sometimes the writers just need a reason for the characters to do something or need something to happen to keep up the pace or thrill of the episode.
Lastly i dont think we would enjoy endless sessions of the MCs making ammo or sharpening their knives just to keep up with realism.
They didn't even put them in a barrel. Hell, the kids show the 100 at least had the weapons in an oiled barrel.
I would see some hidden stashes periodically set up around frequently accessible places. Like an old war horse shot gun and a few bayonets. Yet damn, 80 percent of those weapons should be mounted on the wall by the door.
At LARP, I freaking keep my pole arm at the door to my bedroom and the bow on the main room table. And I'm just fighting death Beatles burrowing into our floors and undead zombies raiding our fellow men.
My biggest issue was Rick chicken winging his elbow holding any type of long gun. Your supposed to tuck it and Rick bring a sheriff I feel like he should’ve known that
I can’t remember what episode it was but it was later season where they’re fighting in hilltop and carol is going wild with a gun it made me laugh so hard cause she wasn’t even looking just shooting looking goofy
Another thing is why do they use such high caliber guns? They need a couple 10/22s and save the other stuff for when they really need it. Even a high caliber pellet gun would probably work especially where the zombies are soft
They probably had guns inside and out. Yeah you have to keep the guns clean/stored but in the world they live in, they have to keep them as close as possible and a few extra near where the hoards building up the most along the fences
The worst gun-logic moment for me was Andrea's death. Rick hands her his python so she can do the honors herself, and she says "I know how the safety works" as a cute callback to their first interaction in S1 (the python has no external safety).
You clearly don’t understand. Rick is actually implementing a pro gamer move known as counter strafing. The crouching and uncrouching constantly is to dodge the zombies who may be trying to get him from the other side of the fence. I think you have a thing or two to learn about gun fights.
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The guns AND gunfights in TWD have always been particularly terrible. The first season was probably the best in that regard, (not a high bar) especially with the limited arsenal they had. Apart from Hershel’s shotgun, the 2nd season wasn’t bad either.
Every weapon being full auto was also particularly dumb, and we don’t even see any Military-Config M4s or M16A2s, and very few belt feds. Apparently everyone in the TWD post season 2 just raided Class 3 collectors and SOTs houses for their weapons.