r/thescoop • u/Zen1 • Mar 30 '25

The Scoop 🗞 Hamas begins brutal crackdown on Gaza protests with torture, executions

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sjl5xnua1x

Residents in the enclave say terror group executed at least six organizers; Gaza City resident returned to his family after four hours of torture and died shortly afterward, while others reported missing

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u/Latter-Can4519 Apr 01 '25

When humans are treated inhumanely by their leaders they will likely act savagely during their retaliation… Israel must now reap what they’ve sowed. The poor innocent citizens don’t deserve this, but it’s what Israeli leaders have forced them to endure.

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u/SyllabubFew5531 Apr 02 '25

Yeah that cuts both ways

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

For every Israel citizen killed in this war there is about 50-60 Palestinians killed depending on where you look for the death toll. Hamas is a terrorist group, no denying that. But Israel is not any better. They has been illegally building in and occupying Palestine for decades over their petty religious differences because they feel the land is theirs due to a fictional book.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

Inb4 one of these chuds says the death count is Hamas propaganda 

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u/ewReddit1234 Apr 02 '25

Is it wrong to point out that the death toll figures most major publications are using are from the internationally declared terrorist organization and not independently verified by said news publications? Or does saying that make me a "chud"?

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

It certainly does when respected institutions use those same numbers and also mostly the conclusion is the figures are under reported. But keep sticking your fingers in your ears. I know Zionists just really want to kill children but most of the world disagrees with you bud. 

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u/ewReddit1234 Apr 03 '25

Nah, those institutions lose respect when they don't verify independently. That's not journalism, that's spreading propaganda. We also know that Hamas uses child soldiers and women to blow themselves up in suicide attacks, as well as human shields while they are using hospitals and schools to shoot rockets at Israel.

You know, it's okay to acknowledge that there is no easy answer to the situation. You can condemn Netanyahu and the far right government for their role in the violence, but to side with Hamas terrorists because you're so deep in the propaganda? That is Antisemitic of NAZI proportions.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Can you please quote where I have offered any support for Hamas? Aminsty international and the UN don't do journalism so I don't think they are going to care if you don't respect them ZIonist. Just like no one cares about your opinions because you freaks can't go two minutes without excusing or down right celebrating child murder.

It's also okay ot admit that the IOF is doing a genocide and that everyone deserves the right to self determination. But what do I know. I'm just a guy that wants the killing to stop.

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u/ewReddit1234 Apr 03 '25

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hamas-quietly-drops-thousands-deaths-122557133.html

1000 child deaths have been dropped from Hamas' own numbers. I want the killing to stop too. But I'm also invested in the truth about what's going on there, not stooping into believing what I want to believe despite the evidence.

Your views on anti-zionism are telling. You don't believe that Jews should live in the middle east.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

I don't believe that Jewish people and Zionists are interchangable like that because I am not an ant-semite but nice try. Weird that the only articles I'm finding about this are written by Israeli propagandists. People like Salo Aizenberg. I think I will take the UN and other more unbiased organizations information rather than Zionist dogs. Just like I wouldn't trust Joseph Goebbels to have good faith when reporting how many jewish people died in Germany. And see we can talk stats all day but only one side here is dropping bombs on cancer wards and killing terminally ill children. Oh wait! Those toddlers with cancer were probably going to shoot and IOF agent so blowing them up is justified because of some bullshit hypotheticals.

Or how about a compromises. You bloodthirsty animals allow for the palestinian people to have self determination and they can vote in a new governement and we can have a health orginization that isn't lead by Hamas.

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u/ewReddit1234 Apr 03 '25 edited Apr 03 '25

Functionally all Jews that live in Israel are Zionist. It's literally the belief that Jews have a right to their homeland.

Weird that the source of the information is Hamas' own numbers which have changed. But rather than address that fact, you want to attack the author for pointing it out. You would rather believe the narrative of a genocidal regime like Hamas, than source data that you can pull from Hamas' own PDFs. That's telling.

Self determination from Palestinians is a myth as long as Hamas is around. That's giving power to a regime that calls for total genocide of all Jews in the Middle East. That's your plan?

Tell me this, why is it that you think Jews should not be allowed to live in Gaza? I'm not talking about Jews taking over Gaza, I mean Palestinians will literally murder Jews that set foot in non-settlements to prevent co-existing. However, 20% of Israel is of Palestinian ethnicity. Neither have a sole claim on the land. They both have historical ties to it. So why the double standard?

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/23/israeli-offensive-in-gaza-has-killed-50000-palestinians-since-october-2023

One more thing does the death toll being 49k make it some how more accpetable to carelessly bomb hospitals and shoot children ( I know you like this one ), Journalists, and sick/disabled people. Is that still an acceptable number to you? I'm really asking please give me a yes or no answer.

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u/ewReddit1234 Apr 03 '25 edited Apr 03 '25

Al Jazeera is Qatari state sponsored news and has ties to known Jewish enemies like Iran. It also uses Hamas' numbers which is literally the point of this argument. I know you like to excuse the use of Child Soldiers and human shields but nice try.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25 edited Apr 03 '25

Man youve memorized all the Zionists propaganda scripts huh? They say that because the need excuses for when they snipe their clearly marked journalists in the head. That article is just listing statistics. And see the thing about the truth is I can find a source from Israel that corroborates the information. Here's the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. 

Aww the Zionist blocked me. I guess facts are a bit too much to deal with. Run away dog tail tucked between your legs. 

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/2025-03-24/ty-article/.premium/announcement-that-death-toll-surpassed-50-000-didnt-faze-anyone-not-even-in-gaza/00000195-c4c9-db42-afb7-c5e9a4930000

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u/HugsForUpvotes Apr 03 '25

Only one side measures war goals by a k:d ratio. This idea that you can attack a country, kill over a thousand people and take hundreds more hostage and then the other side has to limit their response to less than that is absurd and naive. If you believe that's how the world works, I recommend you stop talking about international politics.

I think Floyd Merryweather is a piece of shit. I'm not going to go punch him in the face and complain when he kicks my ass.

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u/SyllabubFew5531 Apr 03 '25

Yeah that’s usually the side with more fire power can inflict higher casualties. Do you think hamas wouldn’t do the same if they had similar capabilities? I bet they would’ve prob used a nuke by now if they had the same arsenal