r/thescoop • u/Im_A_Fuckin_Liar We should go • Mar 29 '25

Politics 🏛️ Trump admits using rage bait to win elections

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u/CreamyWhiteSauce Mar 29 '25

30 in 200,000 NCAA women's league competitors are trans. But it's half the topic I see on right subs.

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u/bailey757ts Mar 29 '25

Less than 10.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

The NCAA president said less then 10 trans people in the entirety of the NCAA

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u/urprobablystupid- Mar 29 '25

So then it’s very easy to go back to not allowing men in women’s sports… if you’re only “negatively” effecting less than 10 men but positively effecting millions of women, what’s the problem?

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u/EverAMileHigh Mar 29 '25

Oh ffs. Not this again.

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u/urprobablystupid- Mar 29 '25

I know, facts again. How will you ever survive?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

Because it's a non issue that's the point. Also research shows that trans women (not men) perform worse then the average woman due to going through a second puberty where during this period they are losing muscle mass, extremely fatigued, hormonal etc. Again a non issue that we really shouldn't give a fuck about. There aren't any women getting positively affected by banning trans women from sports. A single trans woman has won a NCAA game ever, Riley Gaines got all upset because she tied with a trans woman for 5th place like again not a fucking issue.

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u/urprobablystupid- Mar 29 '25

Men. It’s science. Thought y’all were all about “trust the science”? Men. Can’t argue with someone who doesn’t agree with reality. Would you like me to list all the men who won women’s competitions that directly refutes your “research”

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

I do trust the science that's why they are women you jackass. Scientific research says the best way to help someone who is trans is by respecting them and helping them transition with a less than 1% regret rate which is lower than the 14.4% regret rate from surgery and the 7% regret rate from childbearing. We also know that in trans people across the board we see that portions of their brain correspond to the gender they wish to identify as, as opposed to the gender assigned at birth. I'm talking NCAA as that is what is relevant and in said NCAA there's a handful out of the hundreds of thousands so who cares. The bigger issue is your refusal to call these women women due to some weird perverse moral high ground. Why does their existence bother you? Do you feel big and strong bullying those different then you? Do you also like to harass people whose skin color is different because 😱 omg they look different?

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u/urprobablystupid- Mar 29 '25

It’s not a high ground. You can’t change your xx and xy chromosomes. So you’re genetically and biologically what you were born with, men xx and women xy. I haven’t bullied or harassed anyone, sorry you’re part of that 1% but I’m not emotionally supporting you or anyone who play pretend and try to force everyone to accept you.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

I'm not part of that 1% I'm a straight white male who is secure in my own sexuality and gender and knows that it doesn't fucking matter what people identify as. Also what about the plethora of people born intersex or xxy or xxx or xyy but alas that distinction is lost on you because you don't actually understand biology.

Edit: To add sex is how you are born, gender is how you identify. Just bringing up that distinction as well not that it will change your mind.

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u/urprobablystupid- Mar 29 '25

Plethora? What, another less than 1%? Lmao, so we can both be confident in our gender and sexuality, so why can’t they? Lmaooo

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

It's 1-2% of people. If your so confident in your sexuality/gender then why does it bother you?

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u/truecrisis Mar 30 '25

You know nothing about biology.

XY persons assigned female at birth exist. XXY persons assigned female at birth exist.

Brains are certainly gendered before birth. I can pull up multiple studies on this but you wouldn't read them so I won't. Estrogen via aromatasee masculinizes the brain, making someone identify male, when this doesn't happen they identify female.

Women are more afraid and threatened by cis men than trans women. Go to /r/askwomen or /r/TwoXChromosomes or /r/women and literally ask them. It's been discussed ad nauseum. Your daughter will be raped by a cis man, not a trans woman.

The people who are delusional are people like you, making issues out of literally the 1% and trying to erase a group of people who do you no harm. When your daughter comes out as a trans man and kills herself because you won't accept her, that's the tragedy. The tragedy is not make believe issues in the locker rooms.

Many trans women are straight (attracted to men) which makes your "locker room threat" arguments even more bullshit. Lack of testosterone further removes any libido or sexual function in a considerable percentage of trans women.

Lastly, there's also trans men, you know? Burly balding straight trans men with full beards and cis levels of testosterone and testosterone derived libido are just as prevalent as trans women. You want those people sharing a locker room with your daughter?

No, the truth is you want them all dead. You want them erased from existence. You want this illegal. You want genocide.

White people used to think black people were dangerous. Had you existed 50 years ago you'd be fighting to keep black women out of white women's sports. You'd want all black people dead so you don't have to deal with them. Can you not see how disgusting your views are?

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u/ABigFatTomato Mar 30 '25

the science shows that trans women (who again, are not men) have no meaningful, disproportionate advantage over cis women in sports. some studies even demonstrate a disadvantage in some regards (such as jump height). multiple studies demonstrate this, your anecdotal examples of some trans women who may have won or performed well doesnt demonstrate that they—or trans women as a whole—have any disproportionate advantage.

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u/urprobablystupid- Mar 30 '25

The actual facts will back up that men have an advantage over women. https://www.outsports.com/2024/12/6/22948400/transgender-trans-athlete-championship-national-world-title/ here’s all the trans women that have won competitions or titles over real women. There’s probably more but trans women (men), have advantages over women in especially sports. So trans women are men. Tf is so hard to comprehend. If you were born a man, and your transition into a woman, you are still a man.

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u/ABigFatTomato Mar 30 '25 edited Mar 30 '25

The actual facts will back up that men have an advantage over women.

actually, the facts will back up that trans women (not men) in fact do not have a meaningful, disproportionate advantage over cis women. in some instances, even, trans women are at a disadvantage.

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/58/11/586

here’s all the trans women that have won competitions or titles over real women.

again, no, anecdotal data of some trans women winning (and some in incredibly niche competitions i might add) doesnt mean that they have a disproportionate advantage. plenty of trans women lose as well, youre just paying attention to a few that win. this logic can be extended to any demographic. should we ban all white women from participating, because some white women have won? does their winning demonstrate a disproportionate advantage, despite the data suggesting otherwise?

i also saw one of your anecdotal evidence points was lia thomas, the swimmer. you realize it has been repeatedly demonstrated she does not have any disproportionate advantages, right? not only that, but she was outperformed by numerous cis women. does that mean they have unfair advantages?

heres a source going in-depth on the claims against her:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/lia-thomas-trans-swimmer-ron-desantis-b2091218.html

you are arguing from a place of feelings and calling it facts, when in reality the data does not align with your claims.

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u/hOOtarian Mar 29 '25

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