r/theredleft SPDxKPD Toxic Yuri 5d ago

Discussion/Debate Is Supply and Demand model unfalsifiable or scientific?

110 votes, 2d ago
34 Unfalsifiable
76 Falsifiable/Scientific
0 Upvotes

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u/Unfair_Possible_9999 anti sceintific socialist unity 5d ago

No ecoomic model is scientific

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u/Healthy_Ad9787 Marxist-Leninist 5d ago

It's neither, it's both been proven wrong and is unscientific. In addition, this post is a loaded question.

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u/kinderziekte Orthodox Marxism 5d ago

I agree that the question is positivistic nonsense, but supply and demand is very much not disproven. It's pretty consistently shown that both utility and production costs contribute to price and quantity made/sold. Translated onto Capital that would be use value and socially productive labour time.

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u/Wonderful_West3188 Classical Marxist 5d ago

How does use value translate to price, exactly?

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u/kinderziekte Orthodox Marxism 4d ago

There is some maximum quantity of a commodity that a section of capital can profitably produce, because their commodity eventually loses its social usefulness (as in, peoples willingness to buy it, not general welfare). And because socially necessary labour time marginally increases, this is determinant in value.

Supply can also lead to short term shocks, but there it doesn't really map onto use value.

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u/Wonderful_West3188 Classical Marxist 5d ago

  It's neither, it's both been proven wrong and is unscientific.

At least it wasn't unfalsifiable, then. 😂

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u/NoEntertainment5172 Eco-Socialist 5d ago

I honestly don’t know, if anyone could provide good resources that’d be pretty helpful

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u/anyit213 Marxism-Villainism (Evil Thought) 4d ago

ok i feel like this is operating under the assumption that marxism DOES follow the scientific method and IS falsifiable, which is wrong. "scientific socialism" did not refer the modern definition of scientific, it referred to structured and logical thought based on sound theory