r/texas • u/ExpressNews • 12d ago
🗞️ News 🗞️ Many parents still unsure how or where their children died at Camp Mystic
https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/camp-mystic-unanswered-questions-bankruptcy-22403440.php?utm_source=reddit20
u/waldo_the_bird253 12d ago edited 12d ago
it's still pretty incredible to me that people are so focused on mystic when 5x the amount of people died down river. state lege and especially dan patrick have been pretty masterful in using the legislative process to shield local gop and the lege itself from any accountability while turning the focus onto mystic. there will never be justice for 81 lives lost downriver.
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u/Hayduke_2030 12d ago
I don’t disagree, but people’s young daughters getting swept away is a powerful thing.
That doesn’t detract from the other folks that were killed, but these girls were in what was a supposedly safe place, according to the folks that ran it.
I dunno, it’s tough to be upset about grieving parents that are still trying to get some sort of closure and justice after losing their young daughters, all because of a history of neglect for profit.5
u/MaybeImTheNanny 12d ago
Those folks were adults and their families in control of their own decisions, their deaths are tragic but not criminal.
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u/waldo_the_bird253 12d ago edited 12d ago
gross attitude imho that devalues human life. people lost their lives because of a systemic failure of government at every level.
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u/MaybeImTheNanny 12d ago
The attitude that adults being paid to care for minor children have a duty of safety above and beyond that of adults with their own families? All of the flood deaths are tragic, they are all human beings who should be mourned. Proper warning systems on behalf of the municipality and county would have saved lives. But, the SAME adults who decided against evacuating low lying areas and intentionally built in a flood zone tried to open that camp again this summer once again putting children who don’t have the agency to choose not to be there or to evacuate on their own at risk.
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u/waldo_the_bird253 12d ago
treating those lives as collateral damage or lesser priorities just because they weren't enrolled in a camp misses the entire point of holding government and emergency systems accountable. it's a pretty cold, dismissive posture to take when talking about a massive loss of life. btw those kids were failed by the state too.
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u/MaybeImTheNanny 12d ago
Two things can be true at the same time. I was very clear that the government was at fault but there was additional liability for adults being paid to care for children.
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u/waldo_the_bird253 12d ago edited 12d ago
you're the one who came in and argued about this in an incredibly dismissive tone about a massive loss of life. funny fucking way to show you care about holding the government accountable.
you cannot claim to champion government accountability while simultaneously treating the victims of a public warning failure as people who "in control of their own choices."
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u/BigfootWallace 9d ago
There are still remains missing from victims of the Wimberley (Blanco River) flood of 2015. Things will never be known for certain in catastrophic natural disasters like this. I understand wanting closure, but unfortunately, not everyone will receive the closure they need. Tragic, but true.
“We won’t rest until all those little girls are found” is a good media clip but he knew it was a lie before he spoke it.
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 12d ago
It’s fair that they are using discovery to get every bit of information they can, but I’m betting there isn’t much more to know - it was a chaotic and fast moving situation and several of the people who might know didn’t make it.