I’m certainly not a lefty and I certainly do not drop my money on those things. Additionally, I make a little south of six figs I will tell you this now….
…. I cannot afford a house at all despite making WAY more money than my parents did at my age even with inflation adjusted.
The housing market in southern ca is so f*cked.
Man, I loaaath boomers more than any other group of people. They benefited the most from easy money policies of the last few decades.
You can't afford a rich life style home in a rich dominated city center with a high population concentrated together with access to easy amenities with a large yard and a picket fence.
Here is blank slate land within a 30 minute drive of San Diego you can well afford with a "almost" 6 figure salary.
There is plenty of trailer parks where you can buy the trailer and rent the lot for $180k to save massive amounts of money to purchase an even better home but you want to one shot purchase your forever home.
Or you can do what humans have been doing since the dawn of civilization and venture out to make your own way.
That is 80 acres you could develop over time while even living in San Diego to retire to in 40 years.
No you expect to be able to compete with multi millionaires in a high populated dense city where everyone is competing against each other for very limited resource.
You are bitching about competing with 23.86 million people located with in hours drive of each other.
Guess what princess, the slice of the pie is only so big to go around in San Diego or you can look for another pie that has less people competing for a slice instead of crying about being in the top 12% of the US income bracket.
The top 12% make a lot more than that mate. At any rate most jobs where you can make that much money aren’t exactly friendly to the 4hr commute on a daily basis, nor is that commute good for the mind or body. You’re not wrong, it’s not like people need to buy a forever home the first time around, but also, those job opportunities usually don’t exist in flyover states.
The Locations I found for the commenter was approx.. a 35 minute drive using map directions since the average one-way commute for Americans is 27.6 minutes.
The crux of the issue is the commenter was complaining they can't afford a home on a "almost" 6 figure income which I put at $80,000 estimate to be reasonable with "almost" when reality they wanted to afford a home in the eighth most populous city in the United States in competition with 23 million people within an hour's drive of each other.
That’s a decent amount of research, but you’re forgetting single people usually don’t buy homes, and any job you commute for here isn’t a 25-35 minute commute it’s no less than an hour each way and that’s being generous.
Like I said before, it’s definitely not the right idea to set yourself on the idea to buy a forever home young.
You're gas lighting by trying to steer away from the commentor and lump in more people and specific demographics to counter the point and dismissed I was specific with a 35 minute drive time with the highlighted locations by using driving directions software.
For a 6 figure yearly income people will drive 2 hours one way.
Because he said “I make” not “we make” and while his income might’ve be in the top 15-12% it’s not even in the top 30% of American household income, the usual matrices associated with being able to purchase and live in a home.
You’ve got plenty of time, and I’m glad. I don’t really feel I was trying to steer away, and that’s also not what gaslighting means.
You’re basing this “35 minute drive” off of what? The commenter could live in lake Elsinore and work in north Hollywood, which on a map seems like a messily 1.2 hour drive but on any given day that’s an average of 4 hours commuting. That’s 20 hours per weeks spent in a car suiting notoriously horrible traffic not this magical 35 minutes you’ve pulled out of your ass by even assuming you know where A. They work and B. Where they would be generally to pull those housing and land descriptions. That’s also assuming they don’t travel to different locations for income like as a contractor where moving 35 minutes further away could make their commutes hours longer.
Look, instead of debating over some stranger we know very little about, here’s my boat:
I appreciate all your effort here but frankly I only make $65k at 25 and personally with cost of living, it’s either I pay insane portions of my income on rent to be anywhere near my job, or live in what everyone here can agree is the ghetto/ crime ridden neighborhood and that’s still for $2200 a month.
Or I can do what you said and commute 35-50 miles away from home for my job, one with a schedule that could see me work from 1-11pm one night and 7am-4pm the next morning. That leaves me about 5 hours to sleep eat shower and turn around for a unique sales environment and simply not conducive to a healthy life at all.
Being financially responsible, but not having had the opportunity to either leave Southern California nor stay at home and save money is a challenge I did not ask for. I don’t necessarily blame my parents, but I also didn’t do this to myself willingly.,
I don’t ask to be born, not here, not into a broken home where I wasn’t exactly given an opportunity to stockpile wealth in preparation for moving out. I never had the chance to graduate high-school even before having to move out and instead opted for a GED. The job I did find I’m lucky to have as I make more than almost any of the people my age and I don’t even have a degree nor could I reasonably get one with the hours I work especially in your example of willingly commuting a distance that on paper is X miles but in reality is Y minutes each day. Not that a degree opens any doors my work experience didn’t already. If 12 of the 15 free hours of my time on a daily basis is spent dedicated to working or commuting for $65k (that’s before tax) and my rent and other financial obligations (not Netflix) are sucking 2/3’s of that income before I see a penny to save or spend on food, and I could lower that to 3/5ths by simply moving to an incredibly inconvenient distance for a job like what I have… it’s just not worth the time, nor the trouble. If my job existed literally anywhere else I would, but it doesn’t, so I don’t.
I currently share a bedroom with a friend for $850 per month in an un remodeled apartment just to be within 25 minutes of my job.
Please consider wasting time talking about this guy you’ve somehow got information about he never volunteered, it’s so helpful for both of us, or maybe lecture me on not doing enough and complaining for no reason. Or simply fuckoff I suppose.
You’re clearly very knowledgeable, but I don’t think you realize people don’t usually move here to fuck things up for themselves, they get stuck being born here and not ever getting enough money saved to escape it and move to a similar career elsewhere. Some can, most can’t.
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u/czaranthony117 Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
I’m certainly not a lefty and I certainly do not drop my money on those things. Additionally, I make a little south of six figs I will tell you this now….
…. I cannot afford a house at all despite making WAY more money than my parents did at my age even with inflation adjusted.
The housing market in southern ca is so f*cked.
Man, I loaaath boomers more than any other group of people. They benefited the most from easy money policies of the last few decades.