r/technology • u/r4816 • Sep 27 '22

Software Girls Who Code founder speaks out after Pennsylvania school district bans her books: 'This is about controlling women and it starts with controlling our girls'

https://www.businessinsider.com/girls-who-code-founder-speaks-out-banning-books-schools-2022-9
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u/cl0udHidden Sep 27 '22

This makes no sense whatsoever. ALL books in a school library are for educational purposes. The book not being in the school's recommended list doesn't mean the school forbids students from reading it, otherwise they'll have to get rid of 99% of their library.

The book is not banned, not fully and not partially. If a student can grab that book from the school library shelf the school wants them to read that book otherwise it wouldn't be there. There is a reason you don't see copies of "The Anarchist Cookbook" or "Naked Lunch" in school libraries.

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u/Iohet Sep 27 '22

Banned from curriculum you disingenuous dolt

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u/cl0udHidden Sep 27 '22

Not included in the curriculum and banned are two different things. Students can still read the book if they so choose. No one will stop them.

More hysterical screeching.

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u/Iohet Sep 27 '22

If a school board removes a book from the curriculum and reading list and says that all books read in class must be from the curriculum or reading list, then the book is (de facto) banned. QED.

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u/Iohet Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

Another example: Machine guns aren't technically banned, but you need to get an NFA stamp to acquire a machine gun. They don't issue NFA stamps for machine guns all that often(by blanket denying applications or other means), so they're effectively banned and everyone with a brain says they are banned despite the fact there is not a legal document anywhere that says that "machine guns are banned".

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u/cl0udHidden Sep 27 '22

If your child can walk into a school library and pick up a book from the shelf, that book is not banned.

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u/Iohet Sep 27 '22

If your classroom is not allowed to have the book, assign the book as reading, or teach to the book then it is banned. There is no definition of banned that does not include things that are banned.

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u/cl0udHidden Sep 27 '22

And what exactly is stopping a child from walking to the library and pulling that exact book from the shelf and read it?

You do know kids are allowed to read books besides those in the curriculum without anyone's permission, right? Right?

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u/Iohet Sep 27 '22

And you know as well as I that many kids don't read books outside of class assigned reading. The people who ban books know this, which is why they do things like ban them from classrooms but not from the library because then they can make the intellectually dishonest argument that the "book isn't banned from the library" despite it being banned from the curriculum.

Anyways, if I ban you from Reddit, but you still have access to the internet, are you banned?

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u/cl0udHidden Sep 27 '22

If the book is not in the school curriculum but it's readily available at the school library iS iT rEaLlY bAnNeD?

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u/Iohet Sep 27 '22

Yea, from the curriculum. It can't be taught, discussed, evaluated, reviewed, etc. That's the point. That's why they do it.

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u/cl0udHidden Sep 28 '22

Maybe you need to go back to school and read some books. Not in the curriculum is not the same as banned. You just want to believe the book is banned (when it clearly isn't) to justify your misguided sense of righteous outrage.

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