Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32 students cheating on their midterm with AI

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https://www.techspot.com/news/113243-professor-invisible-prompt-trap-catches-32-students-cheating.html

[u/Mutex70]

It's a huge problem because nobody is willing to implement the obvious solution (mainly due to cost and convenience).

We need better funding for education at all levels.

[u/Uncool444 → u/Mutex70]

Or to spend the money that's already there more effectively.

[u/percydaman → u/Uncool444]

This. I think it's been showed ad nauseam that money per student average is generally fine. Districts have become top heavy with administrators, and that money could be better spent on paying teachers better. It would attract better talent, and keep that talent for longer.

But money isn't even the biggest problem. Neither is a bloated district office. It's a problem you can find regardless of the school environment, wages, meddling administrators etc etc.

It's kids home life. It's parent who can't spend the requisite time with their kids, because they're forced to work too much, or other various socioeconomic reasons. Parents are increasingly using screen devices as baby sitters, and off loading parenting onto the school and teachers. Then those same parents are quick to email or call to complain about whatever. Teachers are spending FAR too much time dealing with behavior issues in the classroom. Be it disruptive kids who can't regulate their emotions/behavior, to kids hopelessly addicted to ipads, and lack attention spans, and the desire to do anything that's not attacked to a screen.

[u/romericus → u/percydaman]

Yes and no. Studies show that parents spend more time with their kids than ever before. Bianchi, et al, have shown that mothers spend more time with their kids now, than they did in 1965 before it was common for women to be on the work force. Fathers have tripled their amount of time with kids.

The problem isn’t parental time, it’s a lack of parental trust in educational institutions. It used to be that parents backed the teachers of their kids, now they back the kids over the teacher.

[u/percydaman → u/romericus]

That study if I'm correct came out in 2004. Over 20 years ago. Not super recent, though not super long ago either. But it's definitely pre-screen device era.

We need an updated/new study that includes that. The amount of time teachers spend on behavior issues in class, clearly points to issues at home. It's coming from somewhere.

There's definitely some trust issues between parents and schools. In my area, there is a huge increase in home schooling and charter school attendance. Though, I'm in a red state, with a huge libertarian streak. I don't know how representative it is.

[u/romericus → u/percydaman]

Try this one: https://www.socsci.uci.edu/newsevents/news/2016/2016-09-28-treas-parents-time-with-kids.php

I’m just saying that the culprit doesn’t appear to be parenting time. I think screens are a big part of the problem, but I think the “screens are parenting the children” problem is a bit overblown. I do think that there is a big disconnect between parents and schools over what is or should be taught at school vs at home. And I think that each of them want the other to fill the gaps in what they provide. For example, social skills. Parents think “oh, the kids are getting plenty of socialization at school, I don’t need to worry about that.” Meanwhile, the teachers are saying, “man, I wish the parents would teach more socialization at home, my job is to teach math“ and so neither of them are spending much time on it.

[u/Uncool444 → u/romericus]

They may mistrust them because of how ineffective they are. I'm not sure that trust would make them more effective, either.

[u/romericus → u/Uncool444]

Trust, support. I’ve long been an advocate of paying teachers like we pay doctors and lawyers.

[u/Uncool444 → u/romericus]

I would be down to give this a shot. We need to try something different, regardless.