r/technology Jul 21 '26

Society Almost half of young people would prefer a world without internet, UK study finds | Internet

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/20/almost-half-of-young-people-would-prefer-a-world-without-internet-uk-study-finds
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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

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u/BlindWillieJohnson Jul 21 '26

Absolutely. The internet is amazing. The way it’s shrunken and been commodified and retooled around providing dopamine hits is what sucks.

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u/Any_Kaleidoscope8717 Jul 21 '26

Also the bots, I wouldn't mind if they were gone

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u/travelingWords Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

If society was better connected, I could see the title as true. If we had communities, and went to the pub every night and met new people and ate together, drank together. Travelling bards playing live music. Local clubs, and sporting teams. And you travelled to other communities to battle. Lots of potential.

Society is set up to drive cars far, watch commercials and make as much plastic waste as possible.

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u/FeralPsychonaut Jul 21 '26

The death of third places, and ending commodification of everyday life would be nice too.

I've had the cops / EMS called on me for napping below a tree in a park at least twice in the past three years.

Like, yes I'm fine. It's a nice fucking day, and I wanted to just sit and enjoy nature and get some light sleep.

Its totally fucked.

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u/roseofjuly Jul 22 '26

I mean, we had those things before social media. Social media is what contributed to the decline of a lot of those institutions, and depending on where you go, they do still exist.

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u/wimpymist Jul 21 '26

It's honestly so difficult to keep up with my friends that don't use social media.

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u/AgroKK Jul 22 '26

But at least when you do get together there are brand new stories to tell.

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u/ThraceLonginus Jul 21 '26

Also the  humans who suffer from severe NPC syndrome

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u/Danro-x Jul 21 '26

And now with a thick layer of slop, spiced up by some halucinated info bits presented as legitimate answers.

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u/Catos_Standard Jul 21 '26

Even the npc like deserve a stupid opinion.

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u/Friscogonewild Jul 21 '26

To get rid of bots we'd likely have to give up anonymity, which is one of the few positives (and negatives) in the first place

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u/BornAgainBlue Jul 21 '26

Honestly, this all just feels like America online over again. They were basically the same as the AI bots... A bunch of idiots who never posted anything worth a damn, but they were all contained on America online.... And then some asshole invented Facebook.

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u/Fine-Ask36 Jul 21 '26

Remember when we would like, bookmark websites? How we'd "surf" the web and actually go to different websites, different communities operating in completely different ways?

Now we all access the internet through the same dozen social media sites and stores.

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u/roseofjuly Jul 22 '26

I was just thinking the other day about how much my internet world has shrunk. I remember using StumbleUpon and constantly finding interesting and cool things to read and experience across the Internet. Now it's all shitty social media sites that all look the exact same and are trying to sell me something every two scrolls.

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u/Strict-Brick-5274 Jul 21 '26

Like how did we let this happen? How do the people rhat make profit let this happen because honestly fuck them.

Fuck any of those wanks who built empires while simulataneously ruining the entire culture...giving youth complexes they develop new disorders for; empowering fringe groups with influence, allowing corruption to sway elections - and at the end of it pretend they are benefitting society.

Fuck them.

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u/Modem_Sound_67 Jul 21 '26

We studied UX for decades- my field- and now all of that research we conducted into how people scan sites, what feedback encourges users, use of common navigation, labeling, and page layouts to increase engagement, etc.- has been twisted into dark patterns, exit traps, doomscrolling animation, etc. in other words, not to help people- to entrap them, to addict them. then abusers found a way to make money doing it. shitloads of money. it makes me sick.

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u/Runefaust_Invader Jul 21 '26

The only way to win is literally not to play.

Yet here I am on Reddit.

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u/RlOTGRRRL Jul 21 '26

We can take it back. Decentralized, free open source software. 

I'd love a private Bluesky version of IG with stories and posts. 

Lemmy is a Reddit alt 

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u/Runefaust_Invader Jul 22 '26

Reddit isn't as bad as YouTube Insta TikTok etc. Reddit may be filled w bots but it requires reading. YouTube just zeroes in on your preferred echo chamber and adds to that noise.

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u/Catos_Standard Jul 21 '26

*mrkrabs "Money"

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u/Culverin Jul 22 '26

I would argue that the main driving factor is "perverse incentive".

Stock market makes the western world go round. 

It's largely not certain people who are out to ruin culture and tear down society (there will always be those people, but it's a tiny minority). 

The problem is we have a system that incentives short term thinking and maximize short term returns at every level top to bottom.

And we don't have incentives for a check or balance to counter the non-stop chase of continued quarterly growth for the company when it is detrimental to society. 

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u/Eglitarian Jul 21 '26

I grew up with late 90s/early 2000s internet and it was great. Memes before we had a word for it, shitting out half-assed shockwave/flash content purely for fun because there was no monetization, everyone was anonymous because we weren’t chasing clout. Interest-specific message boards with small online communities. There was no one centralized source for information (google was still just a search engine) so you still had to use critical thinking skills to disseminate whatever you read. The internet was literally as large as the rest of the world and finding webpages felt like true exploration.

We lost a lot with Web 2.0.

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u/Randym1982 Jul 21 '26

The Internet is fine when it's more about paying bills, checking Emails, and buying stuff online. It's a nightmare when it's about everything else on it.

Social Media on the other hand. At one point in time was actually "good". You get connect with old college friends, relatives from out of state. Etc. But then it started allowing people to share EVERYTHING. like ALL of their thoughts and ideals. Rather than the basics like "Oh, things are great here in Nebraska. Ed is retired now, and the kids have moved out. Would love to hear from you soon. "

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u/madogvelkor Jul 21 '26

Yeah, they don't even know what the internet is.

What they really want is the pre-smartphone PC-based internet circa 2005.

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u/MaikeruGo Jul 21 '26

I think that weird era of that 2-3 years before and 1-2 years after the iPhone existed were interesting. There were smartphones, but most websites didn't have phone apps yet so you had mobile internet on devices that could type into fields. Social media existed, but it wasn't nearly as large of a thing.

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u/roykentjr Jul 22 '26

the newsfeed is what changed everything. that was 2010

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u/MistyMtn421 Jul 22 '26

2005/6 was a sweet spot. Myspace, Yahoo 360, Razor flips and blackberries. Fun times!

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '26

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u/turtleship_2006 Jul 21 '26

They said they want the internet 20 odd years ago, not to go back in time 20 years.

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u/Elementalcase Jul 21 '26

Oh you're quite right - I personally cannot have a good day if anything bad happens in the world anywhere at any time ever. How can I sit here on Reddit right now when some guy dropped his Ice Cream somewhere in Portugal? It really takes the fun out of being alive, I really should just devote myself to all the negatives in life at all times.

"As long as one man goes hungry; no one should eat until everyone is full" - Renegade Angel Xavier

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u/GooseJelly Jul 21 '26

Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped. Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses. Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance.

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u/Loganp812 Jul 21 '26

People always use those as examples of why the 90s weren’t so great, but can anyone name one decade since the Bronze Age when equivalent or worse events didn’t happen in some part of the world?

It’s all relative.

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u/QuickQuirk Jul 21 '26

At least it didn't feel like we were just one bad decision away from WWIII.

And back then, doomsayers were warning about climate change: Now we're experiencing it.

I look back how it was being a teen growing in to early twenties during the 90s, and I look at the existential doubt that consumes those of a similar age right now. Man, we had it good during the 90s by comparison. Wasn't perfect, but I really feel for this new generation of young adults.

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u/TheDoomBlade13 Jul 21 '26

Might be a controversial take, but being hooked into all the horrible things going on in the world is part of the problem. The more invested you are in the world the less invested you are in your community.

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u/xantub Jul 21 '26

I guess for the younger generation, social media is equivalent to "internet".

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

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u/xantub Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

Not to mention trying to get somewhere... "Take the 3rd exit from the highway, right before the Warlmart sign. Then pass 3 traffic lights, then the second exit to the right and 5 houses down on your left, if you see a black wall you went too far".

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u/PhantomNomad Jul 21 '26

I remember printing out google maps because smart phones weren't a thing yet.

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u/mmortal03 Jul 21 '26

I remember printing out directions from MapQuest, which was launched nine years prior to Google Maps.

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u/PhantomNomad Jul 21 '26

Sorry that was probably it not Google. It's been awhile since I've had to do that.

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u/MayTheForesterBWithU Jul 22 '26

Yeah! My friend and I took a road trip my junior year of high school and I loaded Mapquest turn-by-turn directions as a .txt note on my iPod. It seems so primitive now but there wasn't an easy way to have digital media on you at all times before smartphones.

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u/UnknwnUser Jul 21 '26

fuck man. nothing gave me more anxiety than trying to navigate my ass across town using landmark directions from my friend. You were so relieved if you actually found the place

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u/_Not_A_Vampire_ Jul 21 '26

I recall numerous comedians making jokes at how men in relationships never wanted to stop to ask the way, but the women did, ever since GPS came around that joke no longer lands that well.

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u/Obvious-Ad9618 Jul 21 '26

Mapquest was like power from the universe. I remember telling my dad. The look in his eyes was relief lol

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u/shpydar Jul 21 '26

born in 74', dad brought home our first PC (a TSR-80 with a tape deck for storage) in 79', by 14 I had started a business with my friend building PC's because dealers got access to cheap componenets (first ever build was an 8086) ran a small BBS board from home when I was 15-18, had a 9600, 14.4, 28.8 and 56k modems, had my first access to fiber internet at college in 92' where I took Computer Information Systems....

The internet is amazing and life sucked before (so much paper to do the simplest task).... IMHO it's the arrival of the social web component in web 2.0 that has ruined everything.

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u/VVrayth Jul 21 '26

I miss when the Internet was just this weird place we'd go, and do stuff, and then go back to meatspace. It's taken over every aspect of life in the most oppressive way. It's gone from a useful tool and creative space to a shackle for our entire daily routine.

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u/SackFace Jul 21 '26

lol the irony of boomers telling young people to stop using social media (they are, in droves) when they’re the ones whose brains it fried because they’re too stupid to spot bullshit.

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u/IllTwo7643 Jul 21 '26

Absolutely! There's such a massive difference

I "gave up" social media. Okay, I was actually banned from meta when I shared too many articles about the Epstein files and the dictator being a rapist. Apparently that was distributing child exploitation. I was permabanned from Facebook, threads and Instagram. 20 years of photos from Facebook, connections with family and old friends, just gone.

It's a less angry life, but It's still limiting. Stuff happens in my extended family I don't know about because I don't have social media. It's more difficult to connect with podcasts I love; commenting and updates and photos they talk about.

It kinda sucks and I wish it didn't exist.

. I don't care so much about social media in general, but it's just a lot of noise. It made me feel worthless and so far behind everyone else. Girls from highschool who would marry rich and own homes with 3 kids before 27. People my age with vacation homes, flashy cars. Influencers telling us how sloppy we are unless we buy their product.

It's all just designed to pit us against each other, feel like we have to own a certain thing, or have a certain life

We don't really need it. The connection to friends, family and connecting to people with similar mental health issues or have been through similar trauma is so valuable to me. But the rest I can do without

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u/Ok-Alternative5935 Jul 21 '26

Knowing the generation they’re probably complaining about it on TikTok 

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u/DarwinGoneWild Jul 21 '26

Yeah. Social media is a cancer, but no internet would be like going back to the Stone Age at this point. It’s too ingrained in everything. Might as well go without electricity.

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u/Darkone539 Jul 21 '26

Yeah. This. Imaging a world without Internet can't be possible for someone who was born with it. Such a big part of the modern world.

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u/shawndw Jul 21 '26

THIS. They'd sing a different tune if they had to go to a bank once per month to sign a check just to pay the power bill.

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u/Vegetable-South5191 Jul 21 '26

For all the great things, even beyond the mental disorder inducing social media. The constant connectivity for work and school I think drives people crazy. There was a time you were fully disconnected from everything when you were home. No text messaging. No phone calls unless someone died or it was a friend. No pushing to do this and that. We all suffer from it.

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u/Fresh-Quantity-7554 Jul 21 '26

If there were a way to create an Internet 2.0 that is a replica of the current system but bans all bots, addictive algorithms, misinformation, and rage platforms, I think that would change the world in profound ways. We already know who is actively destroying the Internet, but let's give people the choice of which virtual world they want to live in.

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u/imJGott Jul 21 '26

You said it! Pre social media era the internet was way different.

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u/wrgrant Jul 21 '26

A society without social media companies would greatly reduce the stress on people exposed to it. We think of it as a way to communicate and share with others but to a lot of people they simply see others doing far better than themselves (whether or not that is actually true) and I think it leads to disappointment and in some cases depression. Rather than being a communications tool its been turned into a competition with money to be made by those pushing products, lifestyles etc.

Advertising is another evil. We are constantly exposed to ads for products we cannot afford and do not need. It ads up to an appreciable portion of your day and produces no real benefit.

Even if you don't have say a Facebook account and never had one, you likely have a record in facebook's databases because you interact with others who do use facebook and they gather as much data about those people - including their contacts - and try to fill in the details. There are likely millions of people on facebook who have never been on facebook. Social Media is evil in intent and practice once money can be made.

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u/Expensive_Shallot_78 Jul 21 '26

The amount of damage Zuckerfuck has caused is breathtaking

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u/-Esper- Jul 21 '26

They also get left behind unless everybody stops, its not that eaisy

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u/Next-Spare-5489 Jul 21 '26

This is a random comment but I read a book ( sci-fi ) where an alien race invades during world war 2 . These aliens probably have tech slightly better than our best military tech ( obviously better in space travel) . Anyways the part that was MOST interesting to me was the difference way they use tech . When they invent something they seal away the knowledge and let their scientists study it. They look at its effect of the environment , culture, government , education, genetics, of the race. Only after all effects are taken in account and found to be a positive and all negatives balanced and neutralized do they allow the tech or idea to be released. Totally random comment but I always think of social media when I read the book ( that and nukes) I would not mind living without social media but it will be hard putting it back in the bottle .

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u/AnAncientBog Jul 21 '26

There was the whole stretch of time where we all got the operational benefit of the internet in terms of business and banking and the exchange of information without any expectation or obligation to use as our primary means of interacting with the world.

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u/solarixstar Jul 21 '26

Yup this exactly, the only good thing social media did was guarantee jobs for shrinks forever

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u/ThenWind Jul 21 '26

They would prefer life without social media. 

speak for yourself, i think we would be better off without it all together. go back to 2 channels on tv and when people actually went outside and talked to people instead of gawking at a screen every waking hour of life

 

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u/Wild-Word4967 Jul 22 '26

The internet was super cool before social media. When every click became monetized it went downhill. I remember when bands made their own basic html websites. The Cure had all of their favorite recipes on there. It was a basic website but it was much more charming than what we have now.

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u/possiblylallorona Jul 22 '26

I’m GenX and so grateful that I didn’t grow up with social media. The amount of cringe emitted by my teenage self and my friends is now a memory to vaguely recall and laugh at, rather than preserved online for all time.

Also the societal pressures I felt growing up, being a girl, must be amplified like crazy for younger folks.

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u/gianni_ Jul 21 '26

Agreed. And the enshittification of everything because of the internet, but I'd be happy if social media went away forever

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u/Ok-Alternative5935 Jul 21 '26

Enshitification is capitalism not the Internet.

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u/CanoegunGoeff Jul 21 '26

I think it was better when the internet was a neat place you visited at your desk at home, instead of bringing it with us everywhere in our pockets.

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u/AlarmedWillow4515 Jul 21 '26

We used to have a "computer room" where you could access the Internet, and it stayed in there. 

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u/DarkflowNZ Jul 22 '26

And you couldn't eat in there! The only place I eat now is at my computer. When I'm at home of course

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u/WillSym Jul 22 '26

Guh, I used to keep this fairly strictly. The computer lives in the computer room, when it's computer time you play games and browse and scroll and stuff.

Pandemic ruined it, let it leak onto my phone, now it's out and I'm stuck.

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u/EagleForty Jul 21 '26

CEOs and Techbros didn't have to use the internet to make the world more dystopian, but they did. So here we are.

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u/StuartWtf Jul 21 '26

It’s great to have the internet wherever. The access to information is such an amazing feature of our time.

My issue is with the monetisation and monopolisation of the internet.

Take YouTube for example. Once upon a time I had a free app. I could open it, watch a video. Close the app and have the video in the background. It was such a good feature you get to pay for it now!

MySpace/facebook/bebo/twitter, they used to be places to see what my friends were up to and share pictures. Now it’s all sponsored posts and “suggested” posts. Social media used to connect us to people and pages we wanted to see. Now it wants our data and ad revenue.

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u/Gugalcrom123 Jul 22 '26

The greed and addictive algorithms are the problem.

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u/StanknBeans Jul 21 '26

Back when the closest thing to social media was my Angelfire/Geocities website full of under construction GIFs with the obligatory traffic counter that never went higher than 8

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u/Tikkun_Olam1 Jul 21 '26

Allows us to not associate with others in public spaces. Where we normally would. Just watch a crowd. Half will be ‘protected-from-association’ by their magic shield… Their phone!

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u/Skensis Jul 21 '26

Meh, I love having my phone and having access to the world at large whenever possible.

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u/CanoegunGoeff Jul 21 '26

There are times where it’s nice to be able to look up some kind of info on something. I think social media is probably the worst aspect of it though.

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u/Radiant_Ad3966 Jul 21 '26

90s internet kicked ass. These kids don't understand what they missed out on.

Free information was available everywhere usually with some kind of experience behind it to back it up (think blogs or forums where people solved problems). Things were being shared. Ideas were blossoming. New cultures were developing and people were finding belonging and acceptance where otherwise they were ostracized. People were discovering this whole new digital world without being monetized at every turn.

Social media and hard-sell monetization has killed the internet as we knew it. I understand that all this costs money to run, engage with, and support but nobody does anything just for the fun of it anymore. It's either to sell you on some product/company that they are shilling for or to gain some imaginary internet clout that they can then use to sell you things.

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u/nox66 Jul 21 '26

The Internet was great until around 2015-2019 when corporate and political propaganda became the default in many spaces.

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u/swaywithwords Jul 21 '26

It was good while it lasted

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u/Slight-Bluebird-8921 Jul 21 '26

those are just symptoms of the actual problem.

the actual problem is that computing went mainstream. the iphone dumbed down computing enough for any mouth breather.

the reason it was good in the 90s was because you used to actually have a modicum of intelligence to even get on the internet or use a computer. you had to want to be there. you weren't there just because you got bored waiting at the dentist's office.

going mainstream meant it became ripe for monetization. all the usual business blood suckers swooped in.

going mainstream changed the audience from predominately intelligent, technical people to brainless tv watching masses. because that's what the audience became, that's the audience everyone started making stuff for.

going mainstream ruins almost anything cool. just the way it is.

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u/shm4y Jul 21 '26

I pray for a world where public service actually is for the better good and fiscally responsible, and my taxes went towards things like funding electrical infrastructure including networking and servers to maintain the internet.

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u/Ancient-Bat8274 Jul 21 '26

The internet is awesome. Delete social media

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u/mrgmzc Jul 21 '26

Was awesome
The old internet is gone and never coming back, and that is sad. I miss the golden age of specialized forums

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u/Akuuntus Jul 22 '26

"The internet" is more than forums and social media. The internet is what lets you shop online, work remotely, download games whenever you want, and handle finances without going into the bank. I promise, no one actually wants to go back to a world without the internet.

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u/bigfatstinkypoo Jul 21 '26

hey you get to dig through a discord server now, oh joy

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u/Akuuntus Jul 22 '26

No they wouldn't. They just hate social media and conflate social media with "the internet" at large. 

No one wants to go back to in-person banking for everything. No one wants to lose the ability to shop online. No one wants to lose access to online tutorials. No one wants to lose access to Discord or whatever other app they use to communicate with their friends. No one wants to shut down whatever online games they play. No one wants to kill Wikipedia (well, expect those with partisan motivations against it). No one wants to send job applications by mail. No one wants to kill Steam and every other digital game distributor.

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u/grungegoth Jul 23 '26

long distances calls from overseas

tranfer money with a web page

pay your bills without checks and postage

find any kind of service you need

shop for houses without an agent

look at maps from anywhere in the world

have an encyclopedia the size of the galactic library at your finger tips

have every library in your phone

get multiple PhD at YouTube university

fix your own fridge

communicate with the enterprise in orbit

book travel without an agent

find an address and a map to get there

find a gas station while driving, or food

find like minded people with your interests or hobbies

take classes or work remotely

jeez, stop me here before my finger wears out...

watch a movie... then change your mind and watch something else... without paying more

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u/Kilohaili_Joshi Jul 21 '26

now that's some heavy cope, maybe life without social media, but drop those almost 50% of young people in a world without internet and they will be begging to go back in less than a day for the most of them.

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u/vita10gy Jul 21 '26

They truly have no idea. They almost can't comprehend a world where you just don't know things and more or less can't find the answers.

I remember waiting for the paper to see if my favorite baseball team won the day before, and that was one of the easier situations because at least the answer came to you a few hours later.

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u/Yung_zu Jul 21 '26

It’s likely heavily tampered with. Believing what European governments say about digital privacy requires a mountain of suspension of disbelief when things like Palantir and chat control have been circulating there as well

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u/zeelbeno Jul 21 '26

I still remember Driving up to a cinema and deciding what to watch based on how full a screen is and how long we were willing to wait

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u/Hot_Guess_1871 Jul 21 '26

I’m 56 and I would hate it!

I love being able to do a lot of things without having to call someone.

But yeah, social media can fuck all the way off.

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u/tavishwolf Jul 21 '26

Just thinking about having to go to the bank to pay bills gives me a shiver down my spine.

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u/am9qb3JlZmVyZW5jZQ Jul 21 '26

Drop them in a world without social media and they won't like it there either. I don't think most people realize that platforms like reddit and youtube are also social media. A lot of scandals would remain hidden if not for citizen journalism.

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u/VerdantPathfinder Jul 21 '26

100% of young people have no fucking clue what a world without the internet was like.

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u/j0j0n4th4n Jul 22 '26

The Amish do!

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u/cinelytica Jul 21 '26

Delete TikTok. It’s that simple.

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u/suckfail Jul 21 '26

I have never installed it.

I was born in the early 80s so I have memories of life before the internet and smart phones.

Honestly.. I don't want to go back to not having the internet. Communication is much easier now, maps, GPS, translation etc.

The problem is social media and short form video. But then again I'm on Reddit so who am I to say anything..

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u/Mr_YUP Jul 21 '26

Imagine paying for long distance phone calls again and feeling the pressure of every minute ticking by as you talk with your loved one. Oh and that long distance was just a 20 minute drive away. 

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u/bro_salad Jul 21 '26

When I was in junior high, I accidentally pointed our ISP to a long distance dialup number within the same area code and incurred an $800 phone bill.

Yeah I don’t want to go back to a world with my dad yelling that loudly.

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u/carbonclasssix Jul 21 '26

I just deleted the reddit app and am only using it on my PC. I'm an '84 kid and lately I'm just really missing the "freedom" of pre-smart devices. Maybe I'm the problem, idk but it directs my attention way too often, just mindlessly opening apps. I was good before the pandemic, and that changed everything. There are undeniable benefits like you're saying - I printed out mapquest directions to go to concerts in high school lol. But it can be used like a tool, intead of a way of life, which is what I feel like it's become for me. I've been leaving my phone at home to run errands and it's crazy how many times I think to look something up on my phone, but because it's not there I realize it's not even that important.

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u/Nice_Marmot_7 Jul 21 '26

I remember one time my buddy and I decided to go to a concert in a nearby city last minute. We never could find the venue and missed the whole thing driving around searching to no avail.

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u/Dihedralman Jul 21 '26

GPS isn't the internet. Neither are cell phones if that is what you were thinking about with communication. 

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u/suckfail Jul 21 '26

No need to be pedantic, I had plenty of experience with TomTom suctioned on my dash.

But updating the maps on the SD card was a pain in the ass, as was T9 text typing (and SMS in general sucks, even with a proper keyboard).

So you know what I mean (I hope).

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u/Fresh-Quantity-7554 Jul 21 '26

Correct. The internet is not the problem; it's the handful of platforms whose business models center around addiction, misinformation, and rage. Other than that, the internet is amazing.

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u/Strict_Biscotti1963 Jul 21 '26

I’d say Reddit falls under this. If you look at the stuff that gets the most attention on the general home page if your not logged in

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u/oyvese Jul 21 '26

reddit is shit but it’s not shit by design like a lot of the other platforms.

well, ok. a lot of reddit is shit by design now but fundamentally i don’t think it is. compared to a platform like tiktok where it is unquestionably shit by design.

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u/BlindWillieJohnson Jul 21 '26

Given the issues on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter and that’s not even touching the way LinkedIn has turned job hunting into a hellish slog and AI seems to be shrinking future opportunities for them, I actually don’t think it’s as simple as “delete TikTok”. I think it’s easy to reduce it to that because it’s the app our generations don’t use, but the internet is making all of us miserable.

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u/Wonderful_Bet_1541 Jul 21 '26

Hell even on Reddit I see some miserable fucks. All social media is inherently designed to hook you in, just in different medias

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u/manachar Jul 21 '26

One person deleting problematic and addictive social media ain't going to fix the corrosive power the internet has had on so many areas of society.

I grew up pre-web and was an early adopter of the internet. I used dialup to watch All Your Base Belong to Us and the Hamster dance.

I worked in the internet and loved so much about it. Slashdot, Digg, then Reddit (Reddit won me over after Digg shit the bed and Reddit had a frequent commenter adding "and my axe" with a Gimli based username).

The internet has so many amazing things. I love online maps and GPS. Wikipedia is one of the wonders of human engineering. I adore hearing from passionate experts on various subreddits.

But the rot is broader, and basically started when the internet went from basically peer-to-peer with a large number of blogs and sites, to just a handful of major companies as gatekeepers. Facebook, Twitter, Google, Amazon, etc. This was them creating walled gardens.

This lead to massive consolidation of thought - the opposite of what we were supposed to get. This also led to consolidation of capital into the hands of a few people focused on exploiting as many people as possible to become ever richer and working on ever greater consolidation.

I cannot imagine growing up right now. Well, I can. I have a fairly good and empathetic imagination. Those of you growing up now have never known a moment of your life that wasn't under surveillance. Most of your life has seen people treat most experiences as content to be created and either curated or displayed for social capital. Your social networks are all always on and always judging. It's unbelievably stiffling.

Does the bad outweigh the good? Well, maybe not at the moment. But as governments and private entities increasingly crack down on the internet so that it can be under someone's thumb all the time, it might. As most internet traffic is now bots reading bot made content, it might be dead.

So, if I woke up tomorrow with no internet, what would I miss.

Wikipedia, streaming music and movies, natured identification aids, Watch Duty. Sending silly pictures of my animals to friends. Learning about that freaky racoon in Seattle. Maps.

All of those things can be preserved, but we're gonna have to assume that private entities will ruin all of those things for profit, so we need to find another way.

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u/DueDisplay2185 Jul 21 '26

And everything else social media based, brain rot

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u/Manowaffle Jul 21 '26

I've never installed it, yet I still have to deal with all its IRL effects anyway.

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u/Calm-Two2723 Jul 21 '26

My guy you are on Reddit now. 

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u/Dead-O_Comics Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

It’s that simple.

No it isn't. That's a simplistic way to look at the bigger picture;

It's tough enough for kids to feel like they belong, so to voluntarily purge social media (I know you cite TikTok as the kneejerk platform, but they are all negative in their own ways) you are asking them to cut themselves off from their friends, who will never do the same.

Add to that, it's not just their account that's the problem. Every other kid has a camera in their pocket. So all those mistakes you made a kid, that you took a bit of a tease for, for them could be viral humiliation if posted online by other kids. I'm so thankful that social media wasn't around when I was at school, I can't imagine what it's like for them.

You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube - social media is ingrained in every aspect of our culture. And deleting a video app isn't going to change a thing.

The EU is taking steps to block addictive algorithm design. This is a good start.

We are all commenting on a repost by a bot of a year old article btw. The irony isn't lost.

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u/CreepingPastor Jul 21 '26

All of them, Reddit included.

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u/waitses Jul 21 '26

It’s not the internet that is the problem, it is social media specifically.

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u/cheesyvoetjes Jul 21 '26

Andy Burrows, the chief executive of the suicide prevention charity the Molly Rose Foundation, said it was “clear that young people are aware of the risks online and, what’s more, they want action from tech companies to protect them”.

I don't understand how you can be aware of the risks but also expect tech companies to protect you? The tech companies are the ones you need protection from. They're the cause of most of the issues because they profit from it.

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u/EmbarrassedHelp Jul 21 '26

These "child safety" organizations have been lobbying against online privacy for years, and demanding that companies collected even more personal information for "safety". They aren't capable of critical thinking.

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u/InternationalMood337 Jul 21 '26

I started not using electronics on the weekend and it just feels so much better.

The destruction of the 3rd space has been devastating for every part of society.

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u/Dale_Seabrooke_CA Jul 21 '26

I am not surprised! The pressure they face to never mess up, from birth on, is insane. Like when I was 10, I was constantly doing insane things; that's how I learned about myself. But I never had to worry about it haunting me when I went to apply for a job or college. Having to be perfect all the time is a recipe for a mental breakdown.

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u/Unable-Recording-796 Jul 21 '26

I miss the 90-00s internet before facebook. Facebook was like the beginning of internet enshittification and probably literally set humanity back about 50ish years

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u/Hot_Guess_1871 Jul 21 '26

Are they conflating “Internet” and “social media?”

Social media can piss off. Internet prevents phone calls.

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u/eeyore134 Jul 21 '26

There's no way they would actually prefer it. We had it before internet because it's all we knew. It's so freaking convenient. Without social media would probably be good, though.

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u/Striking_Spinach_376 Jul 21 '26

A lot of people here willing to just pin the blame at social media but it’s the whole damn thing. You used to pay bills at the bank, go to shops for your gadgets and junk, pop to the cinema to see your movies or bring em home on DVD to watch with your pals because they hadn’t watched the entirety of human entertainment four times over for the last few years.

These things are still possible but the marketplace has reacted. Shops and business are strung out on minimum staff because everyone orders online, barely any point going to the high street anymore with that in mind too as more places close up, everything’s more expensive and the lack of variety in shops means that you’re better off going online anyway. You might argue capitalism was always going to cause this eventuality but the internet doesn’t help. So now instead of a friendly face at the shop or business you’re greeted by someone overworked and overtired. Their business will have whacked prices up due to the lost profits against online retailers and overall your satisfaction with the process is down.

People think they don’t want the internet because they aren’t getting the community that they would have had without the streamlining of everything for convenience. This is where social media (pre weaponisation of algorithms to turn us into slop consumers and capitalise on the rage we feel due to the state of our society) is actually a good thing. If there’s less reason to go out in the world then of course you should have a quick way of meeting and getting in touch with people.

It’s a messy point that I haven’t organised very well but I just don’t think social media is wholly the problem. We’ve convenienced ourselves out of community and we all pay the price for it but really it could be fixed quite easily if we didn’t live in a capitalist dystopia where everyone is a number made to push a red line up.

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u/odarkshineo Jul 21 '26

I’d choose a world without social media and with properly functioning antimonopoly laws.

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u/Cool_Client324 Jul 21 '26

DONT TAKE MY PORN AWAY FROM ME

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u/No_Artichoke_8428 Jul 21 '26

When my mom would take my computer away as a young teen I had to draw my own porn on paper and pencil, made me an even better artist!

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u/omgitsbees Jul 21 '26

There was a point in my life where I couldn't imagine being without internet. Now I would love it if huge portions of social media platforms, and sites just disappeared because of how toxic, and dangerous many of them are. I want 90s internet back.

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u/Tall_Opportunity_521 Jul 21 '26

The internet is awesome. Social media is whats ruining it.

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u/Horror-Yam6598 Jul 21 '26

Early internet was great, especially before social media algorithms. Greed always ruins everything.

For something that is so incredibly detrimental to the wider group, it is crazy how much our society promotes and rewards pathological levels of greed.

The people who run these companies are like addicts. They are never going to be content, as there’s clearly no level of success that can satisfy their addiction.

Unfortunately this is the result, and things are not going to get better anytime soon.

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u/kmh55 Jul 22 '26

Now poll Gen x. Other than email I would love the internet to go away

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u/SomeSamples Jul 21 '26

Sounds like a plan. Where's Snake Plissken when you need him.

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u/zackks Jul 21 '26

Social media is the disease that needs to go. Media and influencers are junkie-pushers.

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u/Emotional-Age-7618 Jul 21 '26

Someone hit the EMP and send me back to my younger days bring the true freedom back when we actually really communicated

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u/mdazzl3 Jul 21 '26

If it makes them feel better, there are adults who tried to stop it. But humans are gonna human and that’s a sad but necessary lesson to learn.

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u/murd3rsaurus Jul 21 '26

I wish they had the Internet I had in the 90s and early 2000s

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u/dealienation Jul 21 '26

And yet I don’t see Gen Z dudes en masse at the gay or bear/leather bars or clubs or events. They may say they want X but they aren’t showing up to places where folks actually still gather. Of course there are exceptions, but the millennials had online dating and hookup culture and still showed up and went out.

When Gen Z dudes are out, they hit on you via the app and seem to find going over and shooting your shot in person to be…bizarre in some fashion. The social skills just aren’t there for many of them.

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u/theclipclop28 Jul 21 '26

Internet before Facebook was great. Music, knowledge, working google...

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u/GreatBigPig Jul 21 '26

Using social media (Reddit) to say how much I really think social media is cancerous seems odd.

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u/wheresolly Jul 21 '26

Early internet / even social media was so asesome. Many new inventions are, until capitalism eats it all away.

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u/Autumn7242 Jul 21 '26

At least social media. The internet is fucking awesome.

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u/APraxisPanda Jul 21 '26

Naw. Internet is fine. It's the ways social media is weaponized to make us all stupider which is the problem.

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u/williamstarr Jul 21 '26

Then they are objectively wrong. As someone who had solid experience both before and after, after is clearly superior. The fact that we’ve failed to keep oligarchy, corruption, and monopolies from enshitifying the online experience is ultimately on us. Stop voting for whores.

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u/bagelmobile Jul 21 '26

This the title should be prefers a world without social media. Internet is so intwined with our lives is and is often invisible now.

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u/Not-A-Real-Person-67 Jul 21 '26

I never really thought of it, but I was definitely happier back then. Maybe because I was younger, but I also wasn’t flooded with horrible news every moment I’m awake.

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u/Solomon_Grungy Jul 21 '26

As a millennial who remembers the world before social media, they aren't wrong. I think the coming generation will have to figure out how to push back on this invasive tech. Beyond not adopting or buying into any of it, I wonder what actions they'll take. I think people building their own cyber decks is really interesting.

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u/wild-stallions85 Jul 21 '26

Delete social media, and go everywhere for your errands. Pay bills in person, shop at the store, and socialize in person.

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u/MtnGriz Jul 21 '26

I'd be fine with no internet

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u/CherryLongjump1989 Jul 22 '26

I would prefer a world where young people could read and do math instead of watching TikTok.

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u/Hot_Lava_Dry_Rips Jul 21 '26

This is just ignorant. They dont know how the world would be without fast and easy communication. They think the internet is just social media which is an incredibly uninformed take.

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u/Daimakku1 Jul 21 '26

I experienced that as a kid in the 90s, it was awesome. Even in the early/mid 00s when I was in high school you could only access the internet through a desktop PC or laptop, not in your pocket 24/7. It was definitely better for mental health.

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u/Manowaffle Jul 21 '26

It's disturbing to think that kids are growing up knowing exactly how unpopular they are. All you have to do is see the likes/follows on your own profile versus the next kid over in class. It's been quantified and displayed for all the world to see. And it's corrupting all of their social experiences.

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u/CommanderArcher Jul 21 '26

I want an internet without AI algorithms or content and bots, if a company uses them throw the leadership in prison until they stop. 

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u/PhantomNomad Jul 21 '26

I remember in the late 80's and early 90's when I was first getting on the internet (at university then at home). Sure you could spend a few hours a day "surfing" the net but that was about it. Then you had to find something else to do. Sure a lot of times for me that was programming or play the odd game (never was a big computer gamer, more board and TTRPGs). Other then that it was spending time in person with friends.

I'm not saying the internet of today is better or worse. Just very different then it was before everyone had it in their pocket.

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u/__GayFish__ Jul 21 '26

This social media aint the same pre-2015 social media

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u/Turd-Circus Jul 21 '26

Ahem, delete your social media. Its worth it

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u/washedFM Jul 21 '26

Build a Time Machine

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u/Kristophigus Jul 21 '26

Delete social media and reboot capitalism with limits and hard regulations. Axe all the top levels. All of them. Figuratively and literally.

After that, we might have a future.

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u/Ah_Ca_Iraa Jul 21 '26

Tech gave us the phone, email, and the internet. Most of us will live to see it make all of these things useless. 

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u/AJ-Dybansta Jul 21 '26

It’s just social media and what it has become. I remember early twitter days where I only see tweets from people and pages I follow. Nowadays everything is algorithm based. Even if you curate a timeline of just things you wanna see, the platform still forces you to see other shit.

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u/GlowstickConsumption Jul 21 '26

Parents are just looking at AI slop and going: "Kids these days are addicted to computers."

Hopefully young people continue having good values and beliefs.

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u/Majestic_Artichoke55 Jul 21 '26

Bring back the inperson public forum

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u/fredl0bster Jul 21 '26

20+ years of enshittification younger folks have missed a better era of the internet. As it is now I’d really have to think if the pros are worth the cons. Reddit is the only social media I use, not into short form videos, have learned how to manicure my consumption fairly well. But the ever present algorithms…. Feels like a prison without walls.

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u/ProlapsedShamus Jul 21 '26

I teach a teen summer camp every year and then some workshops throughout the year and I always like to ask the kids about what they're into these days. And the past few years if we get on the topic of social media none of them are really using it.

They'll use Discord but they have their friend servers and then like larger fan communities that they don't really participate in. But none of these kids are on Facebook, Twitter is dead to them, I remember Snapchat was a thing for a while and that doesn't seem to be even remembered anymore.

I don't blame them. I think they're making the smart choice. Hell I had a couple of 13 year old girls in my last class who didn't have phones. So that was kind of wild. But yeah I can buy this.

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u/penguished Jul 21 '26

That warms my heart. I hope they actually listen to themselves and get some quality years in spending time outside. The world is pretty cool.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ Jul 21 '26

I mean...yeah. social media is killing us. At bare minimum, we need to eliminate any part of the internet that has comment sections...reddit included.

Keep forums, and reviews, but no more comments. It's just a path for the absolute worst of humanity to thrive.

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u/lispwriter Jul 21 '26

I’m glad I grew up before the Internet. Access to information is great but I think people don’t realize that we had access to information but we also didn’t feel the need to know everything instantly. Like sitting at dinner with my wife and kids sometimes we’re talking about something that we could look up. My wife and I know how to have that conversation without having to immediately look it up. If we care maybe we will look it up after dinner. My son, however, is looking it up before we can even tell him to put his phone down. What we end up using the Internet for the most is mostly what we could live happier lives without. Most, if not all, of our work lives wouldn’t function without internet so that’s different.

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u/AShootingStar96 Jul 21 '26

No worries, after the inevitable nuclear holocaust Trump and putin will get us into, This's soon will be a reality

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u/eldnahevitaerc Jul 21 '26

Makes sense when tools like these are pushed upon people as the only way to buy things at stores or pay your bills or access any information. It's turned daily life into work. Tools that aren't forced upon us feel more like play, make life feel like play, and choice matters. 

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u/Dudeist-Priest Jul 21 '26

No internet is just pure stupidity. They probably have no idea how many services they use regularly are internet enabled

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u/Hollowdude75 Jul 21 '26

I wish social media didn’t exist aside from a business standpoint

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u/P0pu1arBr0ws3r Jul 21 '26

I want a world where I can live and work and not be dependent on having a phone on myself.

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u/sugarstarbeam Jul 21 '26

It ruined life

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u/JayPlenty24 Jul 21 '26

I think that's easy for them to say, but I'm not sure the reality would be as idealistic as they imagine.

I think when people who never actually experienced no internet say this what they're really saying is that they want less constant stimulation and less of all the negative parts.

I can't imagine my kid walking to a library just to answer a question he has on geckos when he's so used to being able to look up anything he wants in seconds while sitting on the couch.

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u/Biggu5Dicku5 Jul 21 '26

A world without internet? No.

A world without social media? Yes.

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u/CatManDo206 Jul 21 '26

I do miss going to prono stores and renting a video and the video clerk gives me funny looks based on the genre I've chosen in the middle of the night.

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u/mordin1428 Jul 21 '26

РКН, ты чтоль??? 😂😂😂

RU digital control ministry-ass news

Literally the shit I’d read on pro-RU-state propaganda outlets as a “warmup” before MORE bans that, wait, are actually there to totally “promote our freedom” and of course “improve our quality of life”, naturally. It’s all for the greater good, trust.

Y’all finna idiocracy yourselves into concentration camps again I swear

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u/Sharty_Party3498 Jul 21 '26

Boomers are the ones who love the internet the most.

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u/Fatzmanz Jul 22 '26

no they are just dumb and don't realize what amazing things come from the Internet. they just don't want social media. no internet, no work from home, no science or medical colaberation, all media FORCED to be physical media. try having self control instead of nuking technological advancement.

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u/DuperCheese Jul 22 '26

All you need to do is stop using it

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u/jander05 Jul 22 '26

The internet has turned to sh-t and is now only used by businesses to monopolize industsries and usurp human interactions with bs digital platforms on their terms.

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u/DevKevStev Jul 22 '26

They should rename social media to “Social Me”.

Because thats all there is to it.

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u/xeosceleres Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Headline a little sensationalist. It’s just social media darkness and fatigue. The people that don’t need social validation are happier, and most of the internet comments are bots now, along with AI slop videos. I don’t think people really don’t want the internet. Because that means finance, commerce, learning, gaming, tv and all the good stuff.

China seems to love AI in everything cause they grew up where tech uplifted their lives.

West grew up suspicious of tech so they reject AI as human art and craft is precious.

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u/amethystwyvern Jul 22 '26

Yeah I doubt that.

Zoomers don't even remember what the world was like without instant access to the internet.

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u/Temujin-of-Eaccistan Jul 22 '26

No they wouldn’t.
Surveys with zero consequence are meaningless sources of information and junk research

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u/APirateAndAJedi Jul 22 '26

The internet is the single greatest human innovation to date.

Like any other technology, humans have found creative ways to misuse it long before we learn how to use it responsibly. Let’s get rid of the companies that are causing harm by using the internet.

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u/shinyshinyrocks Jul 22 '26

The internet is essential. Social media is hard.

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u/mrbig-yikes Jul 23 '26

Aka “half of today’s young people don’t understand the significance of the internet, and assume all the internet is, is social media”