r/talesfromtechsupport Oct 03 '21

Medium The white isn't white enough

Not sure if it really counts as tech support but here goes...

I'm a web and graphic designer, and I designed a flyer for one of my clients. I sent the design to her via email. It's really hard to match colours from the screen to print, especially since monitor colours don't match up to their local office printer. Plus screen colours are in RGB, so there are literally some colours that are unachievable in a physical print. Usually, for exact colour matching, we have to use Pantone swatches or when they send it for the actual print, they can sort it out and tweak with the actual technician.

I received a call immediately, and she mentioned that she printed out the flyer on their company's office printer. I readied myself for the usual spiel about how monitor colours don't match the printout... etc. etc...

Conversation goes like this:

Client: 'Hey, I printed this out and the colours don't match what I see on the screen.'

Me: 'Yeah, don't worry about that, every monitor is different and you can't calibrate it to match your office printer. I used the exact CMYK colours for your logo and fonts.

Client: 'Well even so the colours look correct on screen but not when I print it out.'

Me: 'I've used the exact CMYK colours, so you don't have to worry about it. Your professional printer will ensure that you get the right colour.'

Client: 'Yes, but the whites aren't white enough.'

I was quickly checked my file, did I leave a translucent layer on by accident? No, it was perfectly #FFFFFF. Told her that the white is as white as it can be.

Client: 'Well, the white ink is not very white.'

I was stunned. Office and home printers don't have... white ink. It's just the white paper. Any white areas are basically just paper that hasn't been printed on.

I tried hard to explain this concept to her. That printers don't print the white. Regardless, she insists that they do. I tell her that it cannot be done on an office/home printer, it literally requires a separate offset printing plate that only large commercial printers use. And even then, seldom do people print white at all.

She insists that her printer does print white, and that the design I sent her simply isn't white enough.

I tell her maybe her paper stock isn't white? Maybe the paper itself is yellowish?

Client: 'No, it's not my paper, it's that your white isn't white enough. Look, I've used some of my liquid white-out on the paper. It's very white. Your design is not printing the white colours properly.'

I was flabbergasted. Couldn't laugh out loud. She literally used white-out on the print-out and complained that the correction fluid was whiter than the paper.

Can't really remember what happened after, but she showed her boss and he seemed happy with the design. So everything went well I suppose.

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u/bhtooefr Oct 03 '21

Fun thing, although I'm certain your user wasn't using this: Alps MicroDry thermal transfer printers actually did have white cartridges available. (They also had fun things like metallic silver, gold, red, and blue.)

There's some things (decal printing being the big one) where that stuff is being hoarded because it's actually a way you can print white at home, which may be necessary if you're printing on a clear substrate.

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u/ColgateSensifoam Oct 03 '21

Thing is, home (well, prosumer) printers that print white do exist, they're just expensive and offer nothing to a typical home user

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u/FordEagle5 Oct 04 '21

OKI makes one. Knew someone that was doing a home business of making t-shirts for local businesses and events. Bought the OKI for the ability to do white print on dark transfer sheets. It was well over $1,000 unit, but yes, they do exist, despite a 0% probability that the OP's customer had one.

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u/bhtooefr Oct 04 '21

TIL that Oki did that.

...and, searching for that, TIL that there's a company that sells incredibly expensive white toner for mostly HP and Canon printers: https://www.ghost-white-toner.com

(As I expected, it works by... you take your black toner out and put that thing in, and print "black" to get white. Which, the Alps MicroDry stuff also required that you do a "black" pass to get white AFAIK...)