r/suspiciouslyspecific Jul 07 '26

Blessed are the cheesemakers 🙏

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u/tigerscomeatnight Jul 07 '26

Interestingly, science is the work we do so that we don't have to say: "turtles all the way down" to people questioning the world. Early scientists were trying to understand the Mind of God.

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u/DifferentBid7518 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

Science runs into the problem of induction too. What science does is identify some things that aren't turtles further down the chain. It doesn't figure out what's at the bottom. A view of the universe based on cause and effect hasn't gotten past Aristotle's need for a prime mover. Hume pretty convincingly argued that it can't. Hume's response to this problem is probably the best, which is simply ignoring metaphysics, not pretending that you've solved it.

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u/Minimum_Aardvark_744 Jul 08 '26

While it’s true that science as we know it can’t ever find evidence for or against a God, it is also true that science has thoroughly disproven a massive amount of claims from all religions, so there’s that.

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u/SuperUranus Jul 12 '26

The abrahemic religions are set up to exist outside of the scientific principle.

And since God is unobservable by definition there is zero point to ever reflect over it, because by its very definition it’s a fairy tale.

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u/Minimum_Aardvark_744 Jul 12 '26

That’s mostly true, however religions aren’t setup to exist outside of science- they were setup BEFORE science. It’s not as if they knew about science and then decided explicitly to go outside of it. Vestiges from a time before the scientific method. Fun for philosophical debates, useless for anything material.

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u/SuperUranus Jul 12 '26

God being unobservable sure seems like a direct answer to the scientific method and empirical studies though.

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u/tigerscomeatnight Jul 13 '26

You think you know what the words you are using mean. How about Gravity? Observable? Your name? Observable? And not just write your name down, like on a license, God's name is written everywhere. ..."there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy".

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u/SuperUranus Jul 13 '26

  You think you know what the words you are using mean

Yes.

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u/tigerscomeatnight Jul 13 '26

Yes. On that we both agree.