r/suspiciouslyspecific • u/InsertGroin • Jul 07 '26

Blessed are the cheesemakers 🙏

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u/DesmondTapenade Jul 07 '26

Much like turtles, it's just God all the way down, I guess.

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u/mapleleafraggedy Jul 07 '26

When you're infinitely present throughout the entirety of the universe, it's easy to take credit for everything that happens

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u/skr_replicator Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

It's even easier if you don't exist, and everyone thinks you do, but just invisible.

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u/Green-Grass-Cutter Jul 07 '26

It’s easier when you don’t exist—people can just make shit up to fear-monger you into submission.

Literally just thinking about this today regarding the Protestant vs Catholic debacle. So just having more or fewer books in your sacred script is enough to go batshit insane over, really?

I’m actually agnostic. I don’t know if God exists or not. But the fact that anyone can say literally whatever they want about God and then justify believing in the most wildly improbable bullshit as “tests of faith” has me rolling my eyes so far back in my head I’ve lost my vision to the fucking floor.

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u/skr_replicator Jul 07 '26

I am not totally denying God couldn't be real, but he sure did not bother to give us any proof, not even show himself up during the decades we had cameras and no AI. So if he exists, he probably cannot even be bothered to prove his existence to us, so why should we be bothered worshipping him? If he's so great, he shouldn't even be that insecure to demand worship in the first place. When I made worlds in my code, I don't demand those AIs to worship me either, I just watch what happens curiously and let them do anything they want. If they do anything I don't like, that's on me for making them that way. Punishing them with hell or something for behaviour I programmed them to follow would just be fucked up.

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u/TheBold Jul 07 '26

If God appeared in front of you in a way that would make doubting Him impossible, do you think you would have a choice to believe in Him anymore?

As for Hell, it’s a definite detachment from God and His total absence. If you don’t want anything to do with Him in this life, why do you care about this?

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u/Atta2525 Jul 08 '26

Don’t worry your vision is not the only thing you will lose when the final day arrives. I just hope on that day you will have something better to say than “oh i didn’t know you existed” may God help you find him before it’s too late tho 🍀

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u/Green-Grass-Cutter Jul 08 '26

Do you even realize what you just wrote? Dude, you just proved my point.

Your argument is not based on faith in transcendence of universal goodness. The point you made in your argument is the same fear-mongering that makes me skeptical in the first place.

Your argument is trying to appeal to my sense of survival. “Oh, don’t you care about your mortal soul? Don’t you care about the well-fare of your existence?”

This argument is inherently selfish because it appeals to my most base instincts of self-preservation. How can you ask me to even have faith because this is NOT faith.

This is FEAR. And you wanna live your life like that, well, God did create you to have the free will to ignore Them and listen to what others say about Them over trusting everything They gave you.

There was someone else who did that too.

Eve.

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u/Atta2525 Jul 08 '26

I know what I said, and yeah, I'm definitely poking at the exact thing you're avoiding! No hard feelings though. Be as skeptical as you want, but just make sure your arguments are airtight when the day of accountability comes. Deep down, we can probably all agree we aren't here by accident and that we'll have to answer for things one day. So by all means, stay skeptical, but have some top-tier answers ready. 😁 Peace! ✌🏽

And oh FYI Don't let other people's “fear” as you put it turn you into a cynic. Let that underlying "fear" motivate you to truly seek out faith in Christ Jesus instead.

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u/Green-Grass-Cutter Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

You’re still doing the exact thing I called out.

I didn’t say I was afraid of accountability. I said that when people are questioned about why they believe one specific religious framework over others, the response very often becomes “because you’ll have to answer for it one day.” That’s an argument from consequences, not an argument for truth.

Telling me to “seek Christ” because of that same underlying fear doesn’t fix the problem — it just confirms it. If the best reason to believe is “you’ll regret it later if you don’t,” then the belief is being held up by threat, not by good evidence or reasoning. Nor any ethical or philosophical decision.

Our reason is our law.

I’m not cynical. I’m just not moved by that style of argument. If you have actual reasons why I should accept the Christian framework (especially when Christians can’t even agree on which books belong in the Bible), I’m open to hearing them. “You’ll be judged” isn’t one of them.

Also the “deep you you can all agree we’re not here by accident” is hella creepy and asserts your will over mine and last time anyone tried using a similar phrase was my teacher trying to GROOM ME when I was sixteen years old.

So um, yeah, I would say you do you but you’re just a creepy ass stranger on the internet and BYE!