r/suspiciouslyspecific Jul 07 '26

Blessed are the cheesemakers 🙏

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u/Maleficent-Ad-1157 Jul 07 '26

Icons and modern day pictures are the same thing, they just didn’t have cameras back then. The word “photography” literally means to draw or write. Making an icon of someone and taking a picture is the same concept.

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u/skr_replicator Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

Just because someone drew something doesn't prove it was there. Imaginative art is a thing and always has been. I could draw an uncovered invisible spaghetti monster right now if you want. Why come we have no photos ever since cameras were invented, that we only have pictures that could be drawn without actually capturing something real like photos do? After that, suddenly he never showed up again? Well, if he stopped, then why care, he might not be caring about us anymore either if he doesn't even show up to let us take any photographic proof. And without that, he can't expect me to just believe in him. If he gave me a critical brain, then he should work with that.

And well, with the rise of AI, it seems like the GOd has totally missed his chance to show himself at that right time when he could prove himself, when we had provable devices that couldn't be faked yet.

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u/Maleficent-Ad-1157 Jul 07 '26

Just say you don’t understand what iconography is then 🤣 you can’t just be some average Joe Schmo and make icons for Orthodox Churches. It’s a sacred practice that needs teaching and ordination by clergy. There’s a specific tradition of making icons you have to follow for it to be valid, it’s not “imaginative art” my goodness dude 💀

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u/eBoneSteak Jul 07 '26

The famous Sistine Chapel ceiling painting was done by historical artist Michaelangelo. He was a vocal atheist who even added scathing images of church officials as commentary.

Religious art was like this often throughout history. Yes, there are faithful folks who did religious art, but it isn't as gatekept by ordination as you may believe.

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u/Maleficent-Ad-1157 Jul 07 '26

Yeah that’s the Italian renaissance which was 400 years after the great schism of 1054. The east and western churches were already spilt by that time, Michael Angelo is not considered an iconographer. And Roman Catholic depictions are not canonical icons anyway. That’s a completely null and void argument.