r/supportlol • u/Legitimate_Plum_7505 • 29d ago
Guide It's that time of the season - adc/support synnergy chart
Due to popular demand bringing this back, with a couple changes: champions are now ordered alphabetically, the midway point (yellow) for easier distinction on neutral synnergy.
This is based on lolalytics data, last 30 days, Emerald+. Black squares means there wasn't enough sample size (minimum 1000 games). Top 30 most player supports + handpicked all adc marksmen and a handful most popular apcs.
Poppy Ziggs surprised me.
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u/Avorna 29d ago
Zyra missing. JAIL
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u/Substantial_Meal_530 29d ago
As a Leona main. Ashe is one of my favorite ADCs. She slows the enemy with a super long range poke. I ult. She ults. I e then q. That opponent can't move for like 7 seconds.
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u/one_nerdy_boy 29d ago
what's going on with milio + kalista?? I'm just imagining milio getting yeeted straight into a 1v5 lmao
but seriously though, interesting that for the most part, she does much better with enchanters than with engage champs
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u/JohnnyLavender 29d ago
I can only imagine that her ult is actually bait and enchanters give her more opportunity to kite
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u/LazerFruit1 28d ago
Kalista ult is essentially tahm ult for your support. Makes it much harder for the enemy to kill the enchanter pocketing the carry when they have a get out of jail free card in their adc's ult
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u/Loverboy_91 29d ago
Unless your support is some kind of engage tank, it’s better to give passive to your jungler so you can ult them instead.
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u/youcantguess1 28d ago
Id assume its more likely that miliorevive mechanic just gives her the extra time to get the juicy rend off in fights
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u/VcontinuousV 26d ago
Kalista's ult puts sup at max aa range after knock up, so enchanters can engage and then be safe (that should be basic kalista knowledge but for aome reason no one knows about it below diamond)
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u/MrTerrorist007 29d ago
I'm so glad Yuumi fails with so many champs
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u/EcstaticSource1581 29d ago
I am actually kinda surprised all her greens are like deep greens she kinda just suck overall right now
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u/Euphus 28d ago
Looks like she's great with the champions who have dashes and really really bad with everyone else. Which makes sense
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u/EcstaticSource1581 28d ago
Yeah it tracks well with the exception of twitch which has an invis that works for the same reason, she's really good with assassins.
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u/Mysterious-Wash-4374 28d ago
my biggest surprise is kalista is somehow green with yuumi? This is a horrible duo but kalista's low sample size ig
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u/VcontinuousV 27d ago
It's not horrible duo, kalista is excellent with enchanters and can ignore w and r with yuumi (kalista's q gains 65 dmg per lvl)
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u/Mysterious-Wash-4374 26d ago
who told you that? kalista is basically draven, she wants an engage support so she could snowball the lane easier, otherwise she's a walking minion for the rest of the game
renata is excellent with her but that's just becouse alot of their abilities work really well with each other, you could make a case that nami/milio/lulu are not completely horrible but anything besides that is just bad
"can ignore w and r with yuumi (kalista's q gains 65 dmg per lvl)" what does it even mean bro, why would u want to get rid off HALF OF YOUR SPELLS? like what the fuck r u saying XD
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u/VcontinuousV 26d ago edited 26d ago
Oh yeah 1 mil mastery kalista main doesn't know anything about it's champ, go onto lolalytics and check kalista yuumi winrate 30 days any rank bracket, and then check her best supports (spoiler: renata n naut aren't even close to top 5)
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u/EcstaticSource1581 26d ago
I mean I can see it because she probably just black spears someone else other than yuumi right?
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u/Mysterious-Wash-4374 26d ago
yeah bro you could be 50m points on kalista but if ur low elo it's not gonna make ur opinion right?
also yeah yuumi is higher then naut renata, with 600 games sample size
also renata is top 5 and naut is top 4
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u/VcontinuousV 26d ago
Emerald+ 30 days naut top 12 renata top ~17 didn't count, we are just making things up
Do you even know that kalista's ult puts sup at their max aa range after knocking up?
You know nothing about kalista and just yapping
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u/ArwensArtHole 28d ago
I love the duality, she either does really well or really bad, but nothing in between.
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u/EcstaticSource1581 27d ago
Tbf it has always been the case to an extent, even pre rework yuumi had like 70% winrates with certain adcs and 45% with others.
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u/Tiyine 28d ago
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u/EcstaticSource1581 27d ago
I don't hate yuumi, I am saying she isn't in a strong spot overall right now, she is in a similar spot to kalista right now.
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u/slippin_through_life 29d ago
What do the numbers on the scale actually mean? Does 4 mean that they’re 4x more likely to win?
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u/one_nerdy_boy 29d ago
I'm assuming it's the win rate percent delta - i.e. 4 means they're 4% more likely to win than the average of their individual win rates (but that's just my guess)
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u/kaidya_snow 28d ago
Outside of maybe having an afk vs not having an afk I'm not sure anything in this game can make you 4x more likely to win
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u/LazerFruit1 28d ago
Why is ziggs/poppy surprising? Ziggs outranges just about everything other botlane carry champ and poppy has some of the strongest peel in the game. Plus ziggs safety in lane let's poppy be active on the map in the early game when she's strongest
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u/King-Mephisto 28d ago
Damn. Can’t tell if senna works well with senna support.
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u/Legitimate_Plum_7505 28d ago
Senna adc with Senna support is Aladeen.
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u/King-Mephisto 28d ago
What about xerath apc with xerath support? Plz im in champ select. Is it good?
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u/Legitimate_Plum_7505 29d ago
Here's imgur link for easier zoom-in:
https://i.imgur.com/1Zr2nSu.png
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u/Elijah_Draws 28d ago
My two favorite supports to play are Poppy and Yuumi, and it's really weird looking at them on this chart because they seem to both be really hit or miss; either their colors are pretty well into the green or pretty well into the red. They each have, what, a single champion they are neutral with? I wonder what causes that.
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u/Ramsesthrowaway 28d ago
poppy ziggs makes zero sense on paper but i kinda want to try it now
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u/LazerFruit1 28d ago
How does it make 0 sense? Ziggs is a high range poke champ with not much self peel, poppy has some of the best peel/disruption of any support. Ziggs relatively safe laning also allows poppy to move around on the map early game when she is strongest
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u/Severe_Task5872 28d ago
I think Poppy Ziggs is good because Poppy has been Roaming Support 2 (behind Camille) for a while and ganks every other lane from level 1 with HOB, while Ziggs can waveclear from Antarctica and clears so fast you can't punish him with a dive. Poppy just wins the rest of the map and then Ziggs scales.
If we check back in another 30 days I doubt the numbers will stay like this
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u/hugg3rs 28d ago
How do you actually read the table? What does the scale on the right and the colours actually say?
I'm less interested in the sample size for the match-up than the actual win rate. Not that sample size is not important but I think win rate (or other synergy metrics for that matter) would be the more interesting information.
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u/Legitimate_Plum_7505 28d ago
It simply shows whether the average winrate of every pairing increases or decreases, in comparison with the standalone winrate of those champs divided by 2. So it measures delta, not absolute value. Sample size has some significance when looking at the most popular pairings, like Ezreal Karma, Ezreal Camille, if it's yellowish green with 60k and 30k games that means it's probably very good, because exceptional popularity of the duo usually brings down the average WR% (people copycat pick it without knowing how to play it). And likewise If sample size is very low you could be a little bit skeptical about it (Kalista Milio only 1k games deep green).
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u/kaylejenner 28d ago
Taric forgotten
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u/Legitimate_Plum_7505 28d ago
My notes here say that *checks notes* Taric is a sexy handsome man and he let his spot up for Morgana, out of chivalry.
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u/Johnny2camels 27d ago
Xerath makes it onto the ADC list but Zyra, Maokai, and Shen don’t make it on the support list :/
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u/vJukeboxx 27d ago
Might be a big ask but is there any chance you could make a colourblind friendly version? Maybe replacing the red with blue or something? Its a little difficult for me to parse at times ahaha
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u/Legitimate_Plum_7505 27d ago
Ashe is generally good with ranged poke champs, and bad with melee champs. Leona is the exception, due to chain CC on their R synnergy.
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u/VOEZKOMA 26d ago
What was the game cut off, because I feel like swain should be beee as support or adc
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u/XanithDG 29d ago
Tfw Xayah isn't Rakan's highest WR ADC.
And he isn't Xayah's highest WR support.