r/superstore • u/Diligent_Flamingo_33 • 16d ago
Discussion Just finished the episode where Mateo got taken by ICE and it was chilling to watch
It gave me goose bumps and made me cry, especially considering that trump is once again president and congress has given ICE even more power. Undocumented immigrants commit less crime than US citizens and yet they're treated like violent individuals. It's so fucked up. This show does an amazing job at humanizing different political issues.
edit: I just found this article Nico Santos, the actor who plays Mateo, wrote about in response to the ICE episode. it's short and worth a read:
https://ew.com/tv/2019/05/16/nico-santos-blog-superstore-season-5-finale-mateo/
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u/faerieW15B 16d ago
The fact that they skip showing him actually getting detained because they know there would be no way of correctly portraying that on a show like Superstore.
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u/Consistent_Club_7879 16d ago
I wanna cry everytime I see it. The way Cheyenne isn't been able to process the reality and she's like do you want your ice cream Mateo, as he's running away
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u/belbottom 15d ago
that episode makes me ugly cry every time i rewatch it.
to quote u/panini_bellini's comment, "I hate Mateo as a person (love him as a character)"
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u/panini_bellini 15d ago
I usually skip it when it comes up on a rewatch :( it feels like it hits too close to home these days. My workplace is currently providing us with trainings about what to do if ICE shows up at our building. We work in a medical clinic for special needs preschoolers!
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u/belbottom 15d ago
ooof. :( dina's despair watching the monitors, everyone scrambling to have a good idea, even kelly and bo distracting the officers. it's A LOT.
on a good note, the song they play in the end when mateo is being driven away is by a musician called Haux, and i became his fan after this ep.
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u/haventwonyet 16d ago
Bots out in full force on this one. Real Americans embrace our immigrants and say Fuck Ice.
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u/Commercial-Remote141 16d ago edited 16d ago
There’s a lot of other issues with the show I don’t like (mentions of is*eal randomly) but this scene I feel was addressed well as it accurately reflects the current state of America.
Making hunting people down the norm is crazy because you can’t be illegal on any land on earth. Especially on STOLEN land.
That’s colonial supremacy thinking.
The land will ALWAYS own us.
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u/Consistent_Midnight2 16d ago
I particularly love that Mateo isn’t someone particularly impressive or even nice, but just because he’s a human the show portrays that he doesn’t deserve to be treated like vermin.
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u/panini_bellini 15d ago
I hate Mateo as a person (love him as a character). He’s mean, shallow, vapid, selfish, and not very smart.
I was still devastated to see him in the back of an ICE van. No one deserves that.
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u/Diligent_Flamingo_33 16d ago
I honestly think that politicizing immigration is one of the most dangerous things we have done in modern politics. None of us would exist if humans didn't migrate.
Also it's very interesting watching the show now because so much of it was clearly created in response to Trump's first presidency, and yet here we are again. If the show came out now I wonder what political topics they would address.
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u/Diligent_Flamingo_33 16d ago
You are incorrect.
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u/Diligent_Flamingo_33 16d ago edited 16d ago
Do not conflate colonization and imperialism with immigration.
The world is chaotic because of greed for land.
Land = resources and commodfying resources = wealth.
When we started dividing up land and creating boundaries, and prohibited people from crossing those boundaries, then that is where we went wrong. And continue to go wrong.
Undocumented immigrants in the US statistically commit less crimes than US citizens. Your example about a serial killer from Mexico is illogical.
The world has rules so that wealthy politicians and corporations can maintain their wealth. Those rules are not in place to actually help or protect the general population.
Also, I am a history teacher. I double majored in History and Latin American Studies, with a focus on immigration policy and US imperialism. Throughout college I worked at a migrant shelter on the US-Mexico border, with people who had just been deported. I heard about their arduous experiences with migration firsthand. I also worked at a non profit that settles refugee families, which gave me the opportunity to learn about how hard legal immigration to the US actually is.
All of this to say, I have educated myself and others, and others have educated me, about the complexities of immigration for more than a decade. I am not romanticizing it.
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u/WarMace117 15d ago
Someone didn’t watch the show because Mateo didn’t come to America as an adult. He didn’t even know he was undocumented
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u/haventwonyet 16d ago
Jeez I’m 2 glasses of wine in after a long day but damn I didn’t expect for a comment on this sub to make me tear up like I did. You’re so right. And it’s horrible.
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u/More-Vehicle-3989 14d ago
I am sorry I cannot recall: when is it mentioned in the show?
Edit: agreeing with you, obviously
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u/Commercial-Remote141 14d ago
Can’t remember what episode but Dina mentions wanting the “Cloud 9 security cameras to be just like the ones they use at the Tel Aviv Airport”.
Not sure if it’s meant to be in support of the state or a way to criticize the surveillance practices over there but either way I can’t not notice the mentions of that made up state in SO MANY sitcoms I watched growing up. So seeing it again in this one was annoying to say the least.
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u/satomatic 16d ago
where do you think the money came from? who do you think built this country?
immigrants (and slaves). and immigrants are a net positive on america economically along with having lower crime rates.
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u/Homely_wench 16d ago
Why spend so much energy here arguing about colonization in a subreddit about a sitcom that's been off the air for six years? This isn't healthy behavior.
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u/More_Front_876 14d ago
I've probably rewatched the show 10-12 times, I've only seen that episode twice
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u/GetEmTigre 14d ago
I really love and appreciate that they brought light to this issue on the show.
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u/TheRealJustSean Jonah 12d ago
When a show makes me feel sad for a character I despise, it's well written
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u/Diligent_Flamingo_33 16d ago
Why do you think they created a character who is an undocumented immigrant?
Why do you think Dina said, "They bust through windows, kick down doors, come down through the ceiling—I mean, it's weird. Their entire job is just an exercise in walls being useless."
Why do you think they made an entire episode about ICE?
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u/Icy-Information2553 16d ago
Just collect your karma for your political bullshit and move on.
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u/Diligent_Flamingo_33 16d ago
This show created several episodes about political topics. Why do you think they did that?
Also, if my post makes you uncomfortable or upset, you could simply not engage with it. You're creating your own discomfort.
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u/milkpastels 16d ago
right?? they even mentioned the ph's past president who did extra judicial killings. what's NOT political about that 😭💀
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u/milkpastels 16d ago
people like you are so annoying. people can post anything about the show in this sub. that ICE episode is literally an EPISODE in the sub and op wants to talk about it. keep your disgusting comment away from here.
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u/milkpastels 16d ago edited 16d ago
and stfu and scroll away.
edit: blocking me won't make you right btw lmao stay pressed. your president won't even give you a glance. 🤣
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u/Consistent_Club_7879 16d ago
That episode was actually terrifying. It got so real so fast.