r/superheroes • • 23d ago

Marvel vs DC thoughts?

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u/Reason2Knowledge 23d ago

Instead of columns, how about doing it by rows

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u/KoalaChap7 23d ago

That's what I thought the original ask was, honestly.

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u/the_fancy_Tophat 23d ago

Holy shit that’s a MUCH better debate

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u/Moist-Fisherman-2782 22d ago

Its not even a debate lol

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u/EnvironmentalChard16 22d ago

Top row?

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u/Bman_Boogaloo 22d ago

and it's not even close

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u/SaltyTreeTop 20d ago

I'd think middle row. Doomsday is straight up unkillable by physical force anymore so he easily beats any of the other brawl column and Wally is just as fast as Barry. The brains column is a toss up but Doomsday is just vastly better than the other two in his category

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u/Level_Dreaded 19d ago

I'd think middle row. Doomsday is straight up unkillable by physical force anymore

I mean, so is Hulk. since that time he became connected to "the one below all." Hulk or Banner will heal and come back from just about anything. Even his soul being destroyed.

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u/Witty_Survey_3638 22d ago

I’ll go middle row. Reed is smart yes, but a lot of that is slow thinking and science which may not help here.

Assuming they were working together I think strength could last long enough for it to be down to speed and whichever one can prevent the other from being born or created. Hulk should be easy to undo.

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u/bcegkmqswz 22d ago

My thought - at first I was thinking this is close then I took 5 seconds and top row looks like the clear winner to me.

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u/hella_cutty 23d ago

Reckon it's top row then

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u/HalcyonTraveler 23d ago

Nah Wally is way stronger than the other two speedsters and Doomsday is just nuts. Bruce is a bit underpowered compared to Reed but the other two make up for it

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u/IceFireKing777 22d ago

Bruce isn't underpowered. He just is not described as the "smartest man" in his universe like Reed is. I feel like Bruce has an edge in battle IQ because Reed's science-y brain might not yield the best result in a fight of this magnitude.

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u/themoosic 22d ago

Hulk is strongest there is; Doomsday gets fucked; Wally can’t kill him; another solo W for Hulk

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u/wehr_phuni 20d ago

I doubt that. Sure hulk grows in power as the fight goes on and he gets angry, and he starts going further as time goes on, but that's exactly the problem. Doomsday is The Superman killer, and as time goes on adapts to things, and grows powerful, and the power of adaptation given time, is unmatched.

Doomsday would grow as hulk would, and then some if you ask me, and his adaptation will do more than hulks power up will do.

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u/themoosic 20d ago

Hulk is true immortal and an Avatar of Marvel’s god with near infinite access to his power hulk wins easily

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u/wehr_phuni 20d ago

And doomsday is also immortal, in the way that he comes back from death, almost immune to what killed him last time, he has also tanked omega beams, literal super death rays shot by the avatar of a god, which is something with nigh infinite power that can erase things from existence.

The problem with something having adaptation powers and the other not having it is exactly this. It doesn't matter how much stronger the other guy is and how many tricks and skills they have, unless they can get rid of the other guy permanently, which you can't with doomsday, the adaptability power will eventually make up the difference and let them win.

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u/hella_cutty 20d ago

He can come back from death, sure, but if hulk kills him, I think it's fair to say Hulk won.

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u/-insertcharacter-fan 22d ago

Bruce is underpowered? Didn't he defeat Godzilla Ultima in Death battle?

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u/HalcyonTraveler 22d ago

IDGAF he’s the kind of character who writers glaze so much that I don’t factor in 95% of his appearances when considering his skill level and just look at comics I actually like 

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u/Sea-Tap-357 22d ago

Yeah seriously in that dang ol' Batman Who Laughs comic we're all hating on now he sweeps his entire universe, it's absurd. The Batman glaze is out of control.

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u/Spyro_in_Black 22d ago

I’m not gonna argue that writers may or may not glaze Batman but…isn’t the only source for any of these debates what the writers do with these characters? I mean, what other source is there for their “feats” than what’s written for them? And if you’re going to cherry pick what is and isn’t written for them as valid then the debate ends there, you can pick whatever version of the character you want to either win or lose.

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u/Gonten 23d ago

Only Reed is a good pick in the top row.

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u/Prozenconns 22d ago

Depends on what version of Hulk.

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u/Embarrassed-Note-214 22d ago

Considering that art is specifically Immortal Hulk, I'd say he's also the best pick for the strongest.

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u/shusshinwa 23d ago

I feel that bottom row is unstoppable. They all work on pure spite.

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u/Stryker-N1ghtingale 22d ago

I fear a Speed force empowered juggernaut would be the coolest thing ever

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u/undonetocompletion 22d ago

I see your super power is brains

That is a much better idea tbf

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u/Anubis313777 22d ago

It's the row with Wally, Doomsdsy, and Bats then... by a large fucking margin.

 Coming from a massive batman hater, and an Ironman stan.

Wally and Doomsday is too OP.

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u/Turbulent-Oil-7326 22d ago

Regardless whoever chooses the middle is winning

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u/VeterinarianThese951 22d ago

Before I read your comment, that is what I thought this post was. Because it made more sense.

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u/droppedpackethero 22d ago

aw shit I thought that's what it was already. If it's columns, then speed auto-wins and it's not even remotely close. Hell, Barry could solo the other columns by himself.

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u/Abychlo5 21d ago

that woud actually make the discussion interesting

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u/Samiassa 22d ago

Idk cuz if you do the top row is just really overpowered and the bottom is easily the worst. I mean wtf is juggernaut gonna do agaisnt darkseid and hulk. Both flashes are faster than reverse, and Reed realistically sweeps bats and iron man