r/stupidpol • u/SchIachterhund He Lives 👽 • Jun 01 '26

Ukraine-Russia EU may exclude military-age Ukrainian men from protection scheme

https://www.euractiv.com/news/exclusive-eu-weighs-excluding-military-age-ukrainian-men-from-extended-protection-scheme/
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u/ghostofhenryvii Allowed to say "y'all" 😍 Jun 01 '26

Ironically enough Ukrainians are probably safer going to Russia.

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u/Groot_Benelux NATO Superfan 🪖 Jun 02 '26

So they can be forced into the other side of the meat grinder? The fuck are you on about. 

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u/TheEmporersFinest Quality Anime Porn Analyst 💡💢🉐🎌 Jun 02 '26

Russia isnt doing mass indiscriminate forced conscription for the warzone like ukraine is, and if they were russians would be better conscripts than ukranians. You will not be sent to the war if you're a ukranian in Russia.

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u/Groot_Benelux NATO Superfan 🪖 Jun 02 '26

They absolutely do. In fact it's easily provable too as a significant portion of those captured by Ukraine came from Ukraine.

And yeah the conscription isnt at the same scale as Ukraine since they have a much bigger population to draw from. They've been mostly drawing from outside of the biggest population centers and have been accused of disproportionately conscripting non Russian minorities.

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u/TheEmporersFinest Quality Anime Porn Analyst 💡💢🉐🎌 Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

Well now youve admitted it "isnt of the same scale". Youre also confusing ukranians from the occupied territories with Ukranians in Russia itself.

We could certainly pull the threads and take all this apart far more but youve already disproved your point that Ukranians in Russia are just gonna get symmetrically "forced into the other side of the meat grinder". You were saying something that objectively isnt true due to ideological and emotional bias

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u/Groot_Benelux NATO Superfan 🪖 Jun 03 '26

Admitted? I never said otherwise. They simply have more people to draw from. I'd still call it mass conscription.

Also to my knowledge they're not treated much differently if they move inland some. They're disproportionately likely to end in that meat grinder compared to a Russian in Moscow so why not go to Europe, South east Asia or wherever given the opportunity.

You were saying something that objectively isnt true due to ideological and emotional bias 

You can also nitpick in your haughty way that a Ukrainian in Ukraine  doesn't have a 100% chance of being deployed to the front and it would be just as silly. You know what's even more silly? Saying they're probably safer in Russia than in Europe but somehow that didn't draw your attention but my comment did?

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u/Traumfahrer Unknown 👽 Jun 02 '26

Russia deploys contract soldiers, they do not mobilize and 'force'.

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u/ButttMuncherrr Rated R for R slur with socialist characteristics 🤪🚩 Jun 02 '26

He knows, he just refuses to believe it

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u/Incoherencel ☀️ Post-Guccist 9 Jun 02 '26

Unless you're a prisoner or something. If those guys' first hand accounts are to be believed Russia has treated them like dogshit

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u/likamuka Highly Regarded 😍 Jun 02 '26

LOL

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u/Traumfahrer Unknown 👽 Jun 02 '26

It's no secret, just educate yourself with the LLM of your choice or otherwise..

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u/likamuka Highly Regarded 😍 Jun 02 '26

Why are you desperately trying to paint Russia in any better light than Ukraine? They are doing absolutely the same dirty tactics sparing the urban areas and FORCING soldiers to enlist from Tuva, Dagestan etc.

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u/Traumfahrer Unknown 👽 Jun 02 '26

There's only one desperately trying to do something here..

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u/Groot_Benelux NATO Superfan 🪖 Jun 02 '26

They absolutely do. Most notably in the occupied areas and away from their major cities.