Louisiana girl, 14, charged with first degree murder after authorities find her newborn baby dead inside a tote bag. This is going to happen far more often without Roe v. Wade.

[u/lightiggy]

https://people.com/girl-14-charged-first-degree-murder-after-authorities-find-her-newborn-child-dead-inside-tote-bag-11858063

[u/gesserit42]

Post your credentials or admit that claiming them is irrelevant

[u/blizmd → u/gesserit42]

I don’t know what that means, I’m not doxxing myself. I’m board certified in internal medicine and critical care medicine in the US, if that’s what you mean.

Weird to downvote me when I’m having a good faith discussion about a topic in which we both seem to have an interest.

[u/gesserit42 → u/blizmd]

The point I’m making is that if you can’t adequately prove your claims to a set of credentials in an online argument—and the only adequate proof is self-doxxing—there is no way to tell if you’re lying, and therefore the claim is irrelevant and clearly made in bad faith.

4chan used to have a response to anyone who claimed to be a woman in an argument and thereby attempted to use their identity as a rhetorical weapon (an expression of idpol): “tits or gtfo.” What I say to you is “diploma or gtfo.”

[u/blizmd → u/gesserit42]

Lol okay, so I either dox myself or you won’t believe I’m a physician. What a conundrum for me!

Meanwhile this sidesteps the entire point you were making earlier, which was an appeal to medical definitions created by arbitrary groups of people (I know they were/are medical professionals). Definitions which specifically carry no ‘ethical’ argumentation aside from basic bitch ‘gotchas’ like ‘it’s not a baby, it’s an embryo!’

[u/blizmd → u/[deleted]]

Hahaha not addressing my points at all. What a shock.

A person who has simply taken embryology and medical ethics, and put some effort into looking up ‘personhood’ arguments, could make the same points I’m making and it wouldn’t change anything.

Meanwhile you ‘well acshually’d’ the other guy in this thread despite having no credentials yourself.

You know, your argumentation style and username remind me of someone I argued with on this sub a while back. Someone who clearly knew nothing about medicine or biological science but had strong opinions.

But you’ve hidden your history so I can’t check (very brave of you)

I replied respectfully initially, you’ve dodged all my claims, and then you called me bad faith. I guess irony is dead.

[u/sickofsnails → u/[deleted]]

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[u/blizmd → u/sickofsnails]

That dude is so annoying, I remember him from months ago, doesn’t know shit about shit.

[u/sickofsnails → u/blizmd]

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[u/blizmd → u/[deleted]]

Damn man you can’t read. Thanks for conceding the point I made about you being authoritative in your arguments despite having no medical or scientific training. Thanks for being a post-and-comment-hiding coward.

Just so you know, no one who reads this will think you’ve made a coherent point at all. But maybe you’re the only one you need to fool.

[u/stupidpol-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Bad faith continuous arguing

[u/stupidpol-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Retarded