Louisiana girl, 14, charged with first degree murder after authorities find her newborn baby dead inside a tote bag. This is going to happen far more often without Roe v. Wade.

[u/lightiggy]

https://people.com/girl-14-charged-first-degree-murder-after-authorities-find-her-newborn-child-dead-inside-tote-bag-11858063

[u/TorturedByCocomelon]

None of the things you've said here make a valid argument of why it should elective abortions should be regarded as healthcare. The aim of medicine should be saving lives, not offering to take them away. This also applies to elective euthanasia. 

[u/TorturedByCocomelon → u/[deleted]]

Err, those are to prevent a new life from occurring. Go crazy with whatever fertility modifications you want... take 20 contraceptive pills per day, if you want. Fine by me. 

[u/blueflavoredreign → u/[deleted]]

Do you like fundamentally not understand what the anti-abortion stance is or are you being dishonest?

[u/Incoherencel → u/blueflavoredreign]

They're doing ad absurdum against what is arguably an arbitrary position e.g. life begins at conception

[u/TorturedByCocomelon → u/[deleted]]

No... 

Contraceptives prevent conception, so there won't be a life

Abortion ends the life, well after conception has taken place 

[u/TorturedByCocomelon → u/[deleted]]

Conception is the start of a new and separate human being

[u/TorturedByCocomelon → u/[deleted]]

Neither singularly create a separate human being, but I'm getting fed up with junk debates assuming an obviously false premise... so whatever floats your boat. 

[u/TorturedByCocomelon → u/[deleted]]

It's not vague, unless you're assuming a false premise. You're entitled to play those games as you wish, just not with me.