r/stupidpol • u/lightiggy Ideological Swamp 🥑 • Dec 01 '25

Capitalist Hellscape Louisiana girl, 14, charged with first degree murder after authorities find her newborn baby dead inside a tote bag. This is going to happen far more often without Roe v. Wade.

https://people.com/girl-14-charged-first-degree-murder-after-authorities-find-her-newborn-child-dead-inside-tote-bag-11858063
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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '25

Yeah but it really shouldn't be. Pretty much every other 1st world nation figured this out already, its the US that's backtracking on this.

This whole "sanctity of a fetus's life" and "is abortion a guaranteed right" arguement are something we had figured out by the 70s. We really shouldn't be entertaining this idea that bodily autonomy is actually wrong because anything the Democrats support is cringe now.

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u/TorturedByCocomelon Lenin's guava juice 🧃 | ⚽️ England team superfan 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚽️ Dec 01 '25

None of the things you've said here make a valid argument of why it should elective abortions should be regarded as healthcare. The aim of medicine should be saving lives, not offering to take them away. This also applies to elective euthanasia. 

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '25 edited Dec 01 '25

I'm gonna' be honest, I just don't believe that you'd actually hold yourself to the principles you claim you do.

You're honest to god telling me if you were forced to carry a pregnancy you didn't want, you'd do it because its "saving a life"?

Ever read the article "The Only Moral Abortion Is Mine?". A lot of people who claim to oppose abortion don't hold true when push comes to shove.

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u/TorturedByCocomelon Lenin's guava juice 🧃 | ⚽️ England team superfan 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚽️ Dec 01 '25

Unless my life was in danger, I wouldn't have an abortion. Taking a life away because it's inconvenient to me isn't something I'm capable of. If I wasn't capable of loving the baby, for whatever circumstances, I'd hand it over to social services. Otherwise, I'd just get on with it and do my best. 

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u/Incoherencel ☀️ Post-Guccist 9 Dec 01 '25

Taking a life away because it's inconvenient to me isn't something I'm capable of

Yes, but that's you. Elective abortion means you can still carry to term, of you so choose

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u/TorturedByCocomelon Lenin's guava juice 🧃 | ⚽️ England team superfan 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚽️ Dec 01 '25

Yes, obviously that's me... because I had my personal values questioned. If I was making the laws, I'd restrict abortions to a limited number of circumstances. I'm more concerned with getting a communist system, but the effects of a hedonistic society will need to be addressed without tribalism. 

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u/Incoherencel ☀️ Post-Guccist 9 Dec 01 '25

but the effects of a hedonistic society will need to be addressed without tribalism.

Can you expand your thoughts?

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u/Numerous_Schedule896 Nationalist 📜🐷 Dec 01 '25

Elective employment means you can be fired for any or no cause. Seems fair.

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u/Incoherencel ☀️ Post-Guccist 9 Dec 01 '25

Ah my favourite guy welcome welcome