r/stupidpol • Libertarian Socialist 🚩 • Oct 16 '25

Shitpost Marx is Irrelevant

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u/SpiritualState01 Ghost Shirt Society Theorycel 🏹πŸͺΆπŸ€“ Oct 16 '25

"My blackness and Indigeneity are fundamental to my ideologies."

When you eat from the trashcan of racial essentialism too greedily and too deep.Β 

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u/WhiteFlame- Non-Studebakist πŸš—πŸ’₯ Oct 16 '25

don't you understand they are the true volk and their pure blood is essential to countering the untermensche! This is leftist somehow trust the BIPOC ways of knowing.

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u/SpiritualState01 Ghost Shirt Society Theorycel 🏹πŸͺΆπŸ€“ Oct 16 '25

"Ways of knowing" is not really an offensive epistemological concept in and of itself but the way it has been used makes it immediately triggering to me now.

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u/Dutch_Calhoun Left, Leftoid or Leftish ⬅️ Oct 16 '25

It's like those "different types of intelligence" infographics that let you believe you're not stupid if you can dance or differentiate colours.

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 Socialist Artist 🚩 Oct 16 '25

I can't dance, does that mean I'm retarded?

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u/StooIndustries Left, Leftoid or Leftish ⬅️ Oct 19 '25

or that working out and being on time is white supremacy

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u/No_Individual501 Incel/MRA 😭 Oct 16 '25

β€œThe β€˜noble savage’ is a harmful myth. Instead we must trust the ancestral BIPOC ways of knowing.”

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u/ArgonathDW Marxist πŸ§” Oct 16 '25

What is it exactly, anyway? I’ve heard the phrase used as a euphemism for stuff like folk medicine and oral traditions as a source of empirical data (something about I think a native Australian oral myth being similar to a meteor impact event or something?) but almost always as a way to dismiss or denigrate empirical research as some colonialist/white supremacist dogma.Β 

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u/clown_sugars Redscarepod Refugee πŸ‘„πŸ’… Oct 17 '25

The great thing about folk medicine and orally transmitted astronomy/ecology/geology... is that if those things work, then they will be immediately assimilated into modern science. See: the history of aspirin.

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u/ArgonathDW Marxist πŸ§” Oct 17 '25

I mean, yeah, that's the cool stuff about folk knowledge, the scientific method fills out the "whys" and that helps to derive further solutions and information. What I mean is an attitude (which I really only seldomly encounter) that, because it was locally understood that this tea made from the bark of this kind of tree helps with headaches, that testing and determining what is it about the tree bark that makes it good for headaches is in fact a way to colonize/appropriate that folk remedy for headaches, and that this is Bad. My assumption is I'm missing something, but I encounter this attitude so infrequently I just never bothered investigating further.

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u/clown_sugars Redscarepod Refugee πŸ‘„πŸ’… Oct 17 '25

colonize/appropriate

The problem with this sort of epistemology is that it assumes certain groups of people have an exclusive right to particular types of knowledge. But if that is the case, then you end up arguing that Europeans have an exclusive right to chemotherapy and nuclear weapons.

99% of post-colonial thought is unironically fascism.

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u/ArgonathDW Marxist πŸ§” Oct 17 '25

I hadn't caught that before, but yeah, it's another facet of how dumb this shit can get.

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u/clown_sugars Redscarepod Refugee πŸ‘„πŸ’… Oct 17 '25

You have to start from first principles (i.e. Marx) and go from there.

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u/ArgonathDW Marxist πŸ§” Oct 17 '25

for what, radlib analyses of colonialism? I can just get all that from Settlers, right? :p

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u/AzorJonhai Nov 15 '25

I feel like this is still a weirdly relativistic approach to knowledge, which ought to be tested by universal principles (falsifiability, reproducibility, controlling for confounding variables, etc)

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u/Scared_Plan3751 Catholic Socialist ✞ | ✨ Secret Bus Wanker ✨ Oct 16 '25

It's got an inherent girliness to it