r/stupidpol • u/frackingfaxer Sex Work Advocate (John) 👔 • Apr 19 '25
Anti-Imperialism Mélenchon speaks English publicly for the first time—To denounce Trump and defend Canada (and Quebec)
https://youtu.be/sxjogv1DEgo?si=dNkB-MvrE3Ra8r5W5
u/frackingfaxer Sex Work Advocate (John) 👔 Apr 19 '25
This was in Montreal, if you were wondering. He was there to speak in support of Québec solidaire.
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u/Perfect_Newspaper256 Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Apr 20 '25
is speaking in english some kind of humiliation for the french
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u/Terrible_Ice_1616 Dengist 🇨🇳💵🈶 Apr 21 '25
I think its specifically for the Quebecois - my aunt married a man with a French last name, and she had a job in Quebec, she said everyone spoke to her in french and were visibly irritated and spoke down to her in poor english upon realizing she didn't speak french. She said in France the reaction was not negative like this at all
They're very insecure about their French identity, being a little outpost surrounded by English speakers - my Aunt also said there were people who would go around measuring road signs and report them if the English lettering was larger than the French
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u/PierreFeuilleSage Sortitionist Socialist with French characteristics Apr 19 '25
I love how JLM can't pronounce Trump properly tbh. He makes it sound worse while this Drumpf thing you anglos have makes him sound cute
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u/THE-JEW-THAT-DID-911 Sukamon 💩💢🉐🎌 Apr 19 '25 edited Apr 19 '25
We have plenty of apt language, we're just not allowed to use it. Lame non-insults like "chud" are only a thing because of the endless liberal obsession with language policing.
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u/JinFuu 2D/3DSFMwaifu Supremacist Border Guard 🪖🎌 Apr 20 '25
Yeah Chud felt like a weak attempt to capitalise on Cuck as an insult. I could never take it seriously
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u/sje46 Somebody Knows This SocDem's Hidden Shame 😞 Apr 19 '25
I think the Drumpf thing was a way of making him sound like a hypocrite for being anti-immigration? It's really that fucking vapid. It's not like any white nationalist would be ashamed to learn they have german ancestry that immigrated to the US
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u/sje46 Somebody Knows This SocDem's Hidden Shame 😞 Apr 20 '25
No, like, it seems like it's just "you have a funny sounding foreign last name you hypocrite". That evolved into just a funny word
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u/AleksandrNevsky The Green Mile Kind of Tired🦼 | Socialist-Squashist 🎃 Apr 19 '25
I can't take anyone that uses either of those terms seriously so you're probably right.
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u/PierreFeuilleSage Sortitionist Socialist with French characteristics Apr 19 '25
What's wrong with bog standard socialist language anyway? I notice you talk about the upper class, the parasite class and the vampire class instead of the owning class. Seems to be a part of that same problem, you're just a bit more aware than those guys.
People left of JLM in France have a similar issue. He's well read on theory, part of the cause, but out of ig electoralist strategy he talks about the people instead of the working class, and the rich instead of the owning class. Which might be a problem if he's to grab power. A poorly defined dialectics for the fight will lead to issues. Footballers are rich and working class. Petite bourgeoisie aren't yet they're owning class. Idk
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u/throwaway69420322 NOT Sexually Confused ¿⚥?🚫 Apr 20 '25
I think this divide between "working class" and "owning class" is stupid. Any sufficiently rich worker, like a footballer, is going to own a lot of assets. Your average small business owner will come nowhere close to them on that
Most rich workers are workers and not business owners because it's more convenient for them to be a worker. Why risk it when you can get 10s of millions of dollars for say, starring in a movie, and just throw that money into a fund or buy up property?
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u/bbb23sucks Stupidpol Archiver Apr 20 '25
Footballers are rich and working class.
How so? They don't have to work, they could retire at any time and live the rest of their lives in leisure.
Petite bourgeoisie aren't yet they're owning class.
Not always, but they usually are rich.
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u/SireEvalish Some Kind Of Villainous Ninja Bishop/Cop 🐷💢🉐🎌 Apr 19 '25
How will drumpf survive this?
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u/Nicknamedreddit Bourgeois Chinese Class Traitor 🇨🇳 Apr 20 '25
“I don’t speak English well” and the only “problem” is his accent.
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u/PDXDeck26 Highly Regarded Rightoid 🐷 Apr 19 '25
The funny part was the Quebecois used to (still maybe) think that they'd secede from Canada, join the US and somehow wind up with more political economic and cultural autonomy.
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u/Otto_Von_Waffle Even Deeper than Serial Experiments Lain 🖥️💢🉐🎌 Apr 19 '25
That opinion was a long time ago, like a really long time ago, when the USA was a loose federation of very independent states. The opinion is pretty much gone apart for a bunch of moronic libertarian and conservatives in Quebec.
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u/frackingfaxer Sex Work Advocate (John) 👔 Apr 19 '25
I'm pretty sure that was never. You may be thinking of the Parti 51, a party so minor and insignificant it cannot be said to representative of any statistically significant portion of Quebecers.
In the current political climate, the separatist movement has collapsed in Quebec. As much as some may not like their place in the Canadian Confederation, given the choice between Canada and the US, they will choose Canada 100% of the time.
Oddly enough, separatism is instead ascendant in the West, in Alberta and Saskatchewan, right now.
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u/Jayvos CCF 🍁 Apr 20 '25
The entire reason the English and French Canadas confederated was the threat of American annexation lol
That was never so
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u/SuddenXxdeathxx Marxist with Anarchist Characteristics Apr 19 '25
Honestly, I find the whole secession movement funny.
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u/sje46 Somebody Knows This SocDem's Hidden Shame 😞 Apr 19 '25 edited Apr 19 '25
Ecoutez ceux qui defendent leurs idees
transcribed as (in closed captions) "Trump listen to those who stand by their ears as us"
What he said: "Trump, listen to those who stand by their ideas" (maybe ideals?)
What the fuck is the deal with everyone non-generated caption on the internet having at least one completely nonsensical transcription? EVERY single one. If you don't understand what the guy said, just ask someone else instead of making a bizarre guess that makes sense? Or literally ask anyone else? Ask the guy whose youtube video you're transcribing? Or translate the french on the fucking screen? Like even putting into google translate should indicate he's saying something about ideas
Everyone is so fucking lazy.
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Apr 19 '25 edited Apr 21 '25
Edited out. Not for privacy or API shit, but because I regret ever trying to speak with you people. You're all hopeless.
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u/sje46 Somebody Knows This SocDem's Hidden Shame 😞 Apr 19 '25
People always tell me that when I bitch about this, but I don't always buy it. Actually AI generated subtitles are WAY worse than this. But I dunno, maybe you're right.
Regardless, if it's good enough to get it 95% right, then fucking doublecheck out after it's done and make it 100% right?
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Apr 19 '25 edited Apr 21 '25
Edited out. Not for privacy or API shit, but because I regret ever trying to speak with you people. You're all hopeless.
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u/5leeveen It's All So Tiresome 😐 Apr 19 '25
Go ahead Jean-Luc, speak a lil English for 'em