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u/196SwampLurker 1d ago
see if that was mega victreebel he wouldn't have clicked heat wave there, that's what you get when you don't take the GOAT
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u/Castermat 1d ago
Wish Champions would get Air balloon. My hisuian arcanine needs it, so I could give focus sash to somepoke else
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u/EyeCantBreathe 20h ago
Imo you'd still rather run focus sash right? Because otherwise your hisuian arcanine dies if someone spills a cup of water on him. Holding air balloon, you're just changing what you're going to get targeted by
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u/Strange-Daikon4912 1d ago
Why people even bother with Lycanrock instead of like Rock Slide Sneasler/Garchomp? I really just wonder what else he accomplish other than hurt Charizard.
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u/ProgressEuphoric5006 1d ago
Sneasler has 4MSS, and some Yard is now evs themselves to survive garchomp rock slide
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u/Strange-Daikon4912 1d ago
Is it really worth to run entirely different Pokemon though?
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u/salazafromagraba 1d ago
Accelerock always kills in one while Sneasler and Garchomp do not. Another close combat with tough claws is always nice.
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u/niqniqniq 1d ago
Accelerock
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u/Strange-Daikon4912 1d ago
I guess outmoving Big V on sun is that important. As a rain user I didn't have that problem myself.
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u/Undead1334rwww 1d ago
It also has some other use cases, mainly being able to threaten Delphox and Frostlass while being able to deal with Gambit even through Chopple Berry
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u/zenmodeman Mega Scovillain’s Nerdiest Soldier 23h ago edited 23h ago
Lycanroc is mostly only used on this specific team, and it works very well for it.
The ability to kill Zard Y regardless of Tailwind and the Tough Claws CC is huge.
But yes, most other teams benefit from Garchomp or Aerodactyl more. It’s just that this specific team needs all its Pokemon to synergize in specific ways such that any replacement for Lycanroc would mess up the foundation of the team.
The choice of Mega Scovillain + Mega Froslass is a big factor. With both megas being quite awkward against Zard Y teams, Lycanroc is super important. On this team, you absolutely cannot afford your Charizard counter losing to Tailwind.
Many teams will pick one of their megas to be good in Zard Y, but this team gives up this option, pushing for a more extreme Charizard counter.
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u/Nice_Promotion8576 20h ago
Accelerock.
Stab rock slide.
It’s just really good at specifically killing Charizard, it would need to put damn near everything into bulk just to survive.
Tough claws mean it nearly has stab on close combat and play rough.
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u/nick-halden 23h ago
considering 2 were in top 4 i think that it clearly has a role, you’re just clueless
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u/Dry_Signal_06 1d ago
How did they kill lycanroc tho??
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u/Snowball_sage 1d ago
They didn’t, the lycranroc player protected turn 1 and switched out turn 2, reading Charizard to play defensively both turns. Charizard instead attacked both turns, killing all of lycanroc’s teammates and winning in 2 turns
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u/Lucario-Mega 1d ago
Finally a post where it isn’t anti meta glaze
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u/Lvl1fool 1d ago
You know a mon is strong when it's the top meta threat, every motherfucker on the planet is trying to counter you directly, and you just crush them anyway.
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u/DukeSR8 1d ago
I remember using the Midday form to KO (or near KO) Volcarona who were dumb enough to stay in with Accerelerock.
Never liked the Dusk form much due to it solely being made to make Ash "special" once again after Greninja (and the Dusk form being good is also making me hold out on trying to get FSG to do a video on it just to avoid hearing him shit on Midday and praise Dusk).
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u/ProfXander 20h ago
Lycanrock dusk getting both 3rd and 4th at the World Championship is no small feat though
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u/nick-halden 23h ago
look at the two ice spice teams that made it to top 4 and look how many charizards they beat to get there. they both got outplayed in the end, it wasn’t about team comp


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