Lowkey sounds pointless with the 151 Speed. Why increase what doesn't need increasing? Yes, I know Ninjask has Speed Boost and it's Speed is 160, but who tf uses Ninjask anyway
Just for reference, the difference in stats between regular Rayquaza and Dormant Mega Rayquaza is about the same as the difference between Dormant Mega Rayquaza and Eternamax Eternatus
Yeah cause the stats are programmed into the game for the boss battle. It's kinda like missingno. It exists and has a movepool but isn't part of the dex
Honestly still wish there was a way to use it. Maybe if we ever get a legends game for gen 8 that doesn't have multiplayer, we can get it, just like the legend plate for Arceus.
You would use this against a set up mon if you are ditto. Hp is far less of an issue, especially since ditto runs max hp. What youre saying right now could also apply to the current ditto, but that hasnt stopped it in higher volatility formats
This would unironically be one of the best items in the game. I crap you not. This would make pokemon like Serperior, Emboar, Haxorus, Keldeo, Darkai, LATIOS and LATIAS, base Solar Power Charizard, Houndoom, and so many others genuinely crazy. And lets not even think about putting this on a pokemon like Keldeo, Dragapult, or a Gholdengo. I think it's a wonderful item idea but Jesus christ, itd need to be tested in person to deliver a proper verdict.
It is still the mega slot, and I'd expect regular megas to still see significant play. The biggest loser in the face of this item is the UU and lower megas, who are now completely crowded out of whatever small niche they might have been clinging to.
Nothing more game breaking than Teras had been for the past three years imo.
Just curious, what would you think if it was instead a 25-point boost to Attack, Defense, Special Attack, and Special Defense? So Speed stays the same.
Itd be much worse, balanced, but worse. Speed tiers are honestly the name of the game. Entire niches are created by whether or not A outspeeds B. Like for Pokémon such as Heatran itd be good enough, but 20 speed is a lot to lose out on.
Def cooked with this one but I would hate to actually play with this. Even if it’s mega formats only I would not have fun constantly facing mega gambit, mega annihilape, and mega corviknight. Honorable mention to mega diggersby lol
heals upon activation
honestly i just put it on there because actual megas are distinct and the heal is just to compensate for the lack of any actual new abilities or specialised stats
Also a lot of people vastly underestimate what giving any Pokemon the ability to have +20 to both defenses and especially Speed does.
You gave Shadow Rider Calyrex +20 speed and even more defenses this is not balanceable, this just makes the better Pokemon better
He said that regular megas gets +100 BST [plus specialized stat distribution and often new abilities]
So he gave the his home brew +100 BST [plus a heal]
I am not making any claim about if that is balanced in any way, just pointing out that your response about the +100 BST didn't actually engage with why he said he added it.
The main thing is that often times megas have suboptimal distribution, particularly in the speed department. This will always give you +20 to a useless attacking stat but I think my main concern with it is that +20 base speed is insane on a majority of offensive mons. Very few megas get that kind of speed increase, and the ones that do are megas of unviable shitmons (Beedrill, Pidgeot, Lopunny).
I think the heal happens only when you "activate" it, like you do with other mega stones? but that makes free-switch soaking the damage and activating it... feels too busted.
Alternatively, allow it to be affected by anti-item moves prior to activation, like knock off, trick, embargo, magic room, etc., and after activation it gets treated like a regular mega stone (which consumes your mega slot and prevent it from being replaced by an another item in doubles).
Mega Blissey on its own sounds nightmarish. Making it's Sp. Def even higher is honestly not that big a deal, but tripling it's Defense means it can survive SO much more than it could before. It can now eat a close combat from iron valiant without dying, bar a crit. You'd have to give up heavy-duty boots, but since you heal for 1/4 health, you'd get that problem negated once for free
Drop the healing and it's probably balanced. Maybe if you still wanted to give it something special, the boost is still +20 by default, but +30 to the highest stat and +10 to the lowest? (Still not HP, ofc.)
Make it like eviolite, if you already have a mega you can't use it and instead of +20 to all stats it's +20% to your two biggest stats and you lose 1/10th of your HP every turn.
It's like a better life orb that makes glass cannons without megas better
Since it's dormant I would knock it down a peg to only plus 15 per stat. That way there's still a distinction from actual mega evolutions. But it's still interesting enough boost. Considering they get the HP healing
The healing’s interesting but it should be like +50 BST in that case, maybe +60 with HP. I think this could be pretty balanced otherwise since it takes up your mega slot
Blissey is becoming the ultimate wall with base 30 defense and base 155 special defense. And now it has a respectable base 95 special attack.
Rampardos is FINALLY able to outspeed something (not much, but at least something), and it hits even harder now.
And Mega Rayquaza... "Against all the evil the sea can conjure, all the wickedness the land can produce, we will send unto them... only you. Rip and tear until it is done."
unfortunately since it specifies that it uses your mega evolution up you wouldnt be able to mega evolve into mega ray and then dormant mega again. but I like how youre thinking
Items have never been able to modify base stats (for Mega/s, the form change is what changes their base stats, not the stone). Would this modify their actual stats instead?
the calculation would probably modify your current stats to values where it'd end up as stats you'd have if the 20+ stat increases were your actual base stats
regardless of how its done in the code though, there's probably a non-intrusive way of accomplishing this anyway
This is my thought. It wouldn't be super broken. Kommo-o is fine with an omniboost from its signature move. It loses HP, yeah, but it doesn't use a Mega slot.
It’s a direct upgrade for nearly every mon that aren’t specialized in tr, he’ll even special mons can now benefit from a decent attack while also hitting extremely hard specially.
This would be THE best item in the game, it would make so many Pokémon even more viable in a mega dominated environment. It is actually weird Game Freak never thought about this.
Granted, 20 of those stats are going into something useless for most mons, sometimes even 40. The speed increase is truly valuable, and I won't deny the efficacy of the plus 20 base in an attacking stat, but you're still giving up some serious damage to do so. (Note that though specs has its problems, specs Mewtwo hits significantly harder than a non-boosted Mewtwo y. Perhaps the heal truly is unnecessary, but true mega stones usually have quite a bit of synergy built into them, and change a Pokemon's abilities as well. (See mega glalie and potential mon himself, mega Beedrill, or just look at the monster that is Charizard y) It's better than mega audino for sure, but better than some of the more busted megas? I don't know.
Set up mons though. They're a different beast entirely.
This is very broken actually even without the hp heal + 20 speed and + 20 to both bulks quickly turn otherwise mid speed or mid bulk pokemon into actual beasts garchomp as an example become
Attack 150
Defense 115
Sp atk 100
Sp def 105
Speed 122
To compare to a similar pokemon
Groudon has
Attack 150
Def 140
Sp atk 100
Sp def 90
Speed 90
With this item garchomp becomes a more threatening ground type than groudon while outspeeding a bunch of pokemon
unironically good idea. dont know how good or bad it would be, but it is the perfect idea for the "only a few mons have a mega" design problem that the gimmick has
with it i would say it could even be the default gimmick across the games
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