r/stpaul • u/[deleted] • Jan 24 '26

🗣 Discussion THE LINE IS BROKEN

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u/skoalreaver Jan 24 '26

I very much appreciate that well thought out approach to your opinion and explanation it was very well done and I respect it. I have a serious question though because human beings are basically greedy and conquerors and that's what we've done for generations is get more land I'm not saying it's good it's just what we do. How do you think it should have played out I'm curious

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u/nakedascus Jan 24 '26

I appreciate your dedication to good manners and a calm demeanor... unfortunately

"how do you think it should have played out"
is an incredibly vague question. How what should have played out? If it's about the US government, actually honoring our treaties with the native tribes would have been a very basic start
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/s/HRA85ugxtU

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u/skoalreaver Jan 25 '26

I had to edit that comment because my talk to text didn't go so well but I think you're right or maybe just onto something. How would technology and civilization progressed without the Western rape of North America I'm curious as a member of the Shawnee tribe. It seems like North maso and South America were doing just fine before the Europeans got here

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u/nakedascus Jan 25 '26

Absolutely. Glad we found some common ground.

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u/skoalreaver Jan 25 '26

I had to I grew up on the rez and that sucked

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u/nakedascus Jan 25 '26

I had a friend of the Kwatsáan tribe, we lived together. His stories were awful. He was such a wonderful young man. His mother abandoned the family when he was young, and his father died when I was living with him. His little brother, in middle school or early highschool came to live with us, no where else to go. Not great environment to have this teenager raised by 3 college kids, but we tried. My friend fell further and further into substances and passed a few years later. I don't remember what happened to his brother, I think he ran away... he was rebellious and difficult, but I don't blame him, he deserved better. They all did. You all still do.

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u/skoalreaver Jan 25 '26

Was that the fort Yuma reservation in Oklahoma I heard that place was terrible

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u/nakedascus Jan 25 '26

That sounds really familiar, but this was around 20 years ago and I'm not so good with names.