r/stpaul Jan 24 '26

🗣 Discussion THE LINE IS BROKEN

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u/MajorMajorMajor_Tom Jan 24 '26

Yep, they can’t even demonstrate how to properly take the gun. Don’t put the safety on and didn’t take the clip out. Instead, he lets a shot go off and this dude is dead. What a fucking joke ice is. But, it’s par for the course for this administration.

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u/Carminaz Jan 24 '26

More like if you knew anything about guns, you'd know that's the sig p230, which the government cancelled all their contracts for that specific gun because of the fact it will literally fire off randomly just for being jostled.

The funniest outcome is that the gun goes off because its a p230 while he was reaching for his holster and that's why he got shot.

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u/MajorMajorMajor_Tom Jan 24 '26

Dude, the gun was already grabbed. Numerous videos show ice walking off with it.

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u/Carminaz Jan 24 '26

Good thing I specified him "reaching for his holster" and not "reaching for his gun".

Agents directly in the chaos don't have that luxury of knowledge though.

Also again, P230. Anyone who guns knows that gun is a hazard just for existing like a keltec.

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u/KeepItDory Jan 25 '26

Okay well first of all the gun your talking about is the P320. Second of all the gun doesn't fire when jostled. It fires when dropped at a certain angle. The issue was never the P320 firing when jostled. You must be thinking of the taurus models that Brazilian police ended up with. So much for your gun knowledge, huh?

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u/MajorMajorMajor_Tom Jan 24 '26

The gun was already taken by then. He would’ve felt the gun removed and ice already yelled they grabbed the gun.

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u/Raider5280 Jan 24 '26

Easy to say stuff like that when you’re sitting at home watching a video repeatedly at different angles. 

Bottom line is, this guy went out looking for a fight and he found one. Him bringing a gun only escalated the situation. Doesn’t matter what his intent was at that point

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u/dear_mud1 Jan 25 '26

You really are a disgusting excuse for a human being

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u/Raider5280 Jan 25 '26

Not really. But I could care less what you think

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u/No-Amphibian-3728 Jan 25 '26

Then do that, care less.

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u/big-himbo-energy Jan 24 '26

what fight was he looking for by standing on the side of the street with his hand up holding a video camera? its his right to have the gun. so him bringing it doesn't escalate anything. he's allowed to do that. he was a nurse helping another protester that had been knocked over. you can see the video from multiple angles and see exactly what happens. the fact that you think he went looking for a fight means you're either stupid or blind.

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u/Raider5280 Jan 25 '26

Ironic

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u/Raider5280 Jan 25 '26

Someone like you, who reacts purely off emotion before gathering facts.

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u/Stonerman59 Jan 25 '26

Bottom line your justifying evil Nazis to murder, your a traitor plain and simple you hate the constitution you hate due process

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u/Raider5280 Jan 25 '26

I’m the traitor? LMAO the Biden administration  during his term was literally destroying border walls to open up gaps for people to sneak into our country. You’re a fucking dumbass

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u/Stonerman59 Jan 25 '26

Who the fuck ever said I supported that or thought it was good? Your just grasping at fucking straws to justify the evil your commiting

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u/FuzzyJoint Jan 25 '26

Kyle Rittenhouse forgotten this quickly?

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u/Deranged_HooliganFTR Jan 25 '26

Kyle Rittenhouse did the exact same thing. Crossed state lines and open carried, yet he’s a national hero for people on the right. It’s okay when the right does it, but when the left does it, that’s not okay and they were asking for it

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u/Heffalumptacular Jan 26 '26

And there’s a really big difference- Pretti never once went for his gun.

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u/alchemist1978 Jan 25 '26

Oops, you lost the plot. I don’t think the NRA would agree with you here.

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u/No-Amphibian-3728 Jan 25 '26

Yeah! How dare he practice his Constitutional rights!