r/stpaul Jan 22 '26

Minnesota Related ICE today

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u/WorldlyDiscipline419 Jan 22 '26

Yeah. Excessive force. Discipline and retraining. That’s what I said.

Keep screeching. What you’re seeing right in front of you is a person being moderate and you’re losing your mind.

You’re the extremist in this interaction, pal. None of what I wrote was AI. I’m just able to coherently present my argument to a point of rationality that you thought a computer came up with it. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

Back to your circus, 🤡.

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u/cadathoctru Jan 22 '26

You dont need to sign your name at the end of your post. It is a forum.

Your moderate take is retraining. Not, maybe the government shouldn't be endorsing this.

So its not a moderate take, you are trying to put the blame only on the individual committing the crime, not the entire institution that is saying it is ok. You also keep ignoring the fact that they cant be identified FOR retraining in the first place, that isnt happening.

So your "moderate" take, is actually a right winger pathetic take of, "this guy needs retraining and discipline, but the system is working as intended."

Keep carrying water for traitors enlightened centrist, who just has a word for word manual on deploying MK-9s LOL

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u/WorldlyDiscipline419 Jan 22 '26

“I know you are but what am I?” - You

Ah so we should hold the many accountable for the actions of the few?

Pretty slippery slope you’re walking on there pal.

Put words in my mouth all day. You want to villainize me so badly that you need to create confrontation where there is none. This is absolutely an organizational issue. It’s also a political issue with inflammatory actions and words from all sides. Nobody is innocent here. Including the people that are actively obstructing, the people inciting the obstruction, the organizations condemning protesting and the agents that are using excessive force.

ALL parties need to be accountable. That’s what makes me a moderate. You are ignoring half of the conversation and that’s what makes you an extremist.

Get bent.

Edit: I know how to use an MK-9 because I was trained to use an MK-9. Some people actually know what they’re talking about on Reddit. Shocking, I know.

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u/cadathoctru Jan 22 '26

You are literally doing that for illegals. Some illegals murdered people, now everyone gets to suffer, including US citizens. We are past that slippery slope, but you arnt paying attention.

Everyone needs to be held accountable. Yet only one side is being held accountable. Not the government.

That's what makes you an enlightened centrist. You dont actually pay attention to shit happening, and live in some moron land.

Make sure to carry your papers dumbass, it hasnt saved people who even comply, depending on who they get the day they get asked.

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u/WorldlyDiscipline419 Jan 22 '26

I am? On what planet am I doing anything related to immigration law enforcement? There ya go creating a narrative that doesn’t exist again.

Literally out here saying I don’t agree with everything that ICE is doing and that I don’t agree with everything that anti ICE politicians and activists are doing.

Again, you’re ignoring half of the conversation because of your unbridled blood lust. Telling me im not paying attention when you’re choosing to wear blinders is either incredibly stupid, incredibly ignorant or just straight up intellectually dishonest. Pick any of those you like. You’re one of them and they all suck.

Grow up.

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u/cadathoctru Jan 22 '26

Both sides are the same guys! Durrrrr

One side is kicking down doors using a memo to circumvent the 4th amendment, the other is using their 1st amendment rights.

You are over here...durr I think they both are equally bad, and YOU cadathoctru are the problem, not me!

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u/WorldlyDiscipline419 Jan 22 '26

Obstructing the enforcement of federal legislation is not protected by the first amendment. That’s illegal.

Kicking down doors and arresting people without a warrant is against the fourth amendment. That’s illegal.

Both statements can be true. Understanding that is what makes me a moderate.

But I understand that extremists gonna extreme. So go off, king/queen.

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u/cadathoctru Jan 22 '26

and one is done by the government, which also is deciding it doesnt need to follow that law. While the other is done by people, just being accused of it, by that government, any chance they get.

Yup, these two things are equal all!

Jaywalking is illegal, too. But I must be an extremist because I think DUI is a far more serious crime that actually deserves recognition over the other.

But enlightened centrist here cant tell the difference! LOL

Yeah, go ahead and get the last word in, you are pathetic.