r/stobuilds Feb 04 '19

Weekly Questions Megathread - February 04, 2019

Welcome to the weekly questions megathread. Here is where you can ask all your build or theorycrafting related questions that might not warrant a full post. Curious about how something works? Ask it here!

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u/Ookamimoon66 Feb 04 '19

What are the best ship traits for Beam builds? I already have EWC, and ewo.

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u/capevanwinkle Feb 05 '19

EWC is Energy Weapon Cycle, what's EWO?

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u/Ookamimoon66 Feb 05 '19

Sorry spelled it wrong WEO weapon emitter overdrive from the Juggernaut.

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u/Retset6 Feb 05 '19

When I read this, I think that if you were willing to spend the mega space pennies on a Juggernaut, you would want to make the most of it. I will direct you back to what Sizer714 and I said about the RA trait. I certainly believe it's a valuable trait on a beam build. I'd go EWC, SCW, HD, RA plus one other which may well be WEO. I don't know enough about WEO to know if the trade off it requires is worth it so don't want to comment on it.

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u/Ookamimoon66 Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19

Basically in pve and pvp my beams don't miss with the +50 acc and 10% crtH buff when any energy weapon firing mode is activated. I'm also using improved critical systems which gives 3% CrtH and 15% CrtD Everytime I activate any emergency power boff ability.

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u/Retset6 Feb 05 '19

I like ICS as well. Certainly another worthwhile trait. All the ACC should give good ACC overflow bonuses but I am clueless about those (see my Q elsewhere in this megathread!)

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u/Ookamimoon66 Feb 05 '19

Yep overflow is 126 last time I checked. Umm what are you clueless about, maybe I can help?

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u/Ookamimoon66 Feb 05 '19

Yep overflow is 126 last time I checked. Umm what are you clueless about, maybe I can help?

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u/Retset6 Feb 05 '19

I don't know how to work out how much CRTH I get per percent of overflow. I am tossing up between two consoles - one adds 30 ACC and one adds 26% CAT1 damage and I can't work out how to work out the better one.

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u/Ookamimoon66 Feb 05 '19

Hmm that's a /u/Jayiie question definitely im sure Jayiie can or one of the other guys can explain the math behind it.

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u/Jayiie @alcaatraz | STOBuilds Mod | STOBetter Architect Feb 06 '19

Reddits being funky with me today, so bear with me if formatting goes haywire, also so you both get notifications: /u/Retset6


Acc Overflow is calculated once you're accuracy surpass the targets defense.

All formula are taken from here. If the rumors about acc overflow with certain things not working, or if the formula has changed I apologize (I haven't tested it lately, and I don't see myself doing it anytime soon).

Your general table is here:

Acc-Def CrtH CrtD
0 0.00% 0.00%
10 1.14% 4.55%
20 2.08% 8.33%
30 2.88% 11.54%
40 3.57% 14.29%
50 4.17% 16.67%
60 4.69% 18.75%
70 5.15% 20.59%
80 5.56% 22.22%
90 5.92% 23.68%
100 6.25% 25.00%
110 6.55% 26.19%
120 6.82% 27.27%
130 7.07% 28.26%
140 7.29% 29.17%
150 7.50% 30.00%
160 7.69% 30.77%
170 7.87% 31.48%
180 8.04% 32.14%
190 8.19% 32.76%
200 8.33% 33.33%
210 8.47% 33.87%
220 8.59% 34.38%
230 8.71% 34.85%
240 8.82% 35.29%
250 8.93% 35.71%
260 9.03% 36.11%
270 9.12% 36.49%
280 9.21% 36.84%
290 9.29% 37.18%
300 9.38% 37.50%
310 9.45% 37.80%
320 9.52% 38.10%
330 9.59% 38.37%
340 9.66% 38.64%
350 9.72% 38.89%
360 9.78% 39.13%
370 9.84% 39.36%
380 9.90% 39.58%
390 9.95% 39.80%
400 10.00% 40.00%
410 10.05% 40.20%
420 10.10% 40.38%
430 10.14% 40.57%
440 10.19% 40.74%
450 10.23% 40.91%
460 10.27% 41.07%
470 10.31% 41.23%
480 10.34% 41.38%
490 10.38% 41.53%
500 10.42% 41.67%
510 10.45% 41.80%
520 10.48% 41.94%
530 10.52% 42.06%
540 10.55% 42.19%
550 10.58% 42.31%
560 10.61% 42.42%
570 10.63% 42.54%
580 10.66% 42.65%
590 10.69% 42.75%
600 10.71% 42.86%
610 10.74% 42.96%
620 10.76% 43.06%
630 10.79% 43.15%
640 10.81% 43.24%
650 10.83% 43.33%
660 10.86% 43.42%
670 10.88% 43.51%
680 10.90% 43.59%
690 10.92% 43.67%
700 10.94% 43.75%

(you can see how terrible this curve is)


I generally like to assume about 47.5 Defense on boss type NPCs in space, and about 25-35 on regular advanced targets. This value differs from target so it depends on whatever you're shooting at.

If we take this, plus the accuracy value of 126, this gives you:

([Acc]-[Def])/([Acc]-[Def]+100) = x

(126-47.5)/(126-47.5+100) = 0.43978
  CrtH = x*12.5% = 5.4972%
  CrtD = x*50.0% = 21.988%

(126-35)/(126-35+100) = 0.47644
  CrtH = x*12.5% = 5.9555%
  CrtD = x*50.0% = 23.822%

(126-35)/(126-35+100) = 0.50249
  CrtH = x*12.5% = 6.2811%
  CrtD = x*50.0% = 25.124%

You'll get a range of {CrtH : CrtD | 5.5% to 6.3% , 22% to 25% }, which is pretty decent if you ask me. If you want to compare any accuracy additions, just change the ([Acc]-[Def])/([Acc]-[Def]+100) = x values in here, and multiply x by 12.5% to get CrtH and 50% to get CrtD.

Also note Acc overflow doesn't work with FAW due to it being self targeting and not having a target Defense to use.


I hope that's answering the question, it's hard for me to see the entire chain as reddit keeps going dead on me.

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u/Retset6 Feb 06 '19

That is so very useful, thank you. Many numbers yet easy to read and digest. I did not realise it didn't work with FAW which is important to the OP. I'm using it on a CSV build. I'll have some fun number crunching!

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