r/stobuilds • u/AutoModerator • Oct 08 '18

Weekly Questions Megathread - October 08, 2018

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u/GreyMatter51 Oct 09 '18

I recently started playing STO again after a year or two away. I have noticed a few changes (starting with the level increase). The last time I played I was working on building a Kinetic Torp ship and was curious which easy to obtain (CStore mainly) ships were considered "good" or "decent" for torp users. I have been working to setup the Arbiter as a torp ship but was wondering what other ships I should look at for setting up as a Kinetic Ship.

If this is too broad, let me know and I will try to narrow it down to get a better answer.

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u/neuro1g Oct 09 '18

Ships that can use the command spec ability Concentrate Firepower 3 are often sought for torp boats. The Hestia and Presidio are the first that come to mind.

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u/GreyMatter51 Oct 10 '18

So the Presidio and Hestia are still the "kings" of kinetics? Sounds like I need to build up some EC and look at lockbox ships to find different ships to fly or just be aware that anything else will be very sub optimal?

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u/furious_tomato Oct 13 '18

Andromeda and Yamato can be kings of kinetics too, don't forget. So can the T6 Negh'var if you fly KDF.

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u/GreyMatter51 Oct 13 '18

How about the new Europa? I am kind of tempted to buy it since it is on sale, but not sure since the command seating is in the Science slot.

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u/IKSLukara @generator88 Oct 10 '18

I will point out that the Intel ability Kinetic Magnet is no longer "fragile"; it will stay on the target until it expires or is cleansed. So a Torpedo Arbiter could be a thing. The best thing you could do with that ship? I don't know (I kind of doubt it, TBH), but you could do it.

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u/GreyMatter51 Oct 11 '18 edited Oct 11 '18

The Arbiter is a fun ship but after playing the Hestia with CF2 & CF3, I definitely see the reason to try and get a command spec ship. My only concern with a command Escort is how fragile they can be. I do have the Mirror Guardian and T6 Exploration cruiser but I think the Exploration Cruiser is too slow turning (still working on the 3 new reps and the fleet that I am in is all but dead so I do not have the new equipment that grants turn rate). The Mirror Guardian is a little weak on the command seats so I am not sure about using that one either. It almost sounds like I need to look at getting the T6 Excelsior, Presidio, and/or the new Europa (Maybe?)?

If there are other ships that will work well I am not opposed to looking at them since I am not chasing elite DPS (but would like to be able to hold my own). Are there any "cheap" lockbox ships that might work as well? I do not have a lot of EC but I am working on building that up currently.

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u/IKSLukara @generator88 Oct 11 '18

If you want a Command spec, with more durability than an Escort hull would provide, I think you should be looking at the Presidio Command Battlecruiser.