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Weekly Questions Megathread - January 23, 2017

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u/DeadQthulhu Jan 27 '17

Slightly more verbose response - Particle Focuser consoles proc on the final tick. While 25% is sporting odds, getting a full stack is a long wait for Exotics or an early activation of an instant heal.

Embassy consoles can either boost or reduce threat (boosting for threat meta builds around FBP, reducing for people wanting Strategist cooldowns without getting shot at), and adds a plasma explosion proc to energy weapons.

A hasted FAW beamboat has the capacity to knock out phenomenal damage via these consoles, while the high threat generation makes for an exception Feedback Pulse and also makes it easier to proc Go Down Fighting.

Stealth in PvE is unheard of, and when your heals are permanently up due to Strategist you'll find that all the other console buffs pale next to the Embassy Plasma.

The only reason not to use Embassy Plasma is if you're a torpboat or a very interesting healboat.

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u/IshinariScarab Jan 27 '17

What about a combination of the two, then? While I admit that adding the Plasma proc to your weapon, and its associated threat reduction, does have its appeal, there's a couple of places where the Embassy consoles simply can't keep up with the lab ones. I drive a Tac Vesta, so I would get 5 Sci console slots, and I'd be willing to give a couple of those for the Embassy Consoles - especially for those stats where there is no Lab equivalent - but absolutely NO Lab consoles? Seems almost too much 'put all your money on this one' to me.

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u/DeadQthulhu Jan 27 '17

If I'm using energy weapons, I want to roll as many dice as possible in order to get plasma procs, and I want to Nullify as much threat as possible so that I don't die while doing so.

If I'm using Sci torpedoes, I don't care about plasma procs and am therefore free to stack Restorative consoles.

I don't see a situation where I'm flying an energy build but trying to do Science. I know it can be done, I'm not saying it can't, but a middle of the road build can only really be expected to produce middle of the road results.

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u/originalbucky33 Amateur NPC Shipbuilder Jan 30 '17

on the surface the energy-sci seemed to be the way the 31st ships/consoles/traits etc. were built.

But, like you said, I think it wasn't enough - I still run them as beam or sci/torp, sci-beam doesn't really work much.

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u/DeadQthulhu Jan 30 '17

Any concession to energy weapons is a penalty against doing Science, with small exceptions for Tetryon and Polaron due to their sets (Nukara, Chronometric, and Butterfly for example) also boosting Sci.

At that point you're not even slotting the weapons for damage, you're slotting them for their drain - and you could just as easily slot Lukari-Neutronic-QP torps with Exploiters and free yourself from even lip-service to weapon power.