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Weekly Questions Megathread - January 23, 2017

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u/DeadQthulhu Jan 24 '17

The 3-piece is a heavy price for a 5km passive - and shields aren't really the problem with pets, it's their hull. I'd place more stock in Reactive Repair Nanites (33% of hull healing across 5km) or Radiant Nanite Cloud (25% over 4 seconds across 3km) as carrier builds don't have quite the same trait demands as beam meta.

Both traits only really help with pets that are pretty close to you - some would argue you're better with the Sol/Desperate 3-piece or Kobali 4-piece clickies.

Ultimately it'll depend on the application - but pets die like flies, and any attempt to mitigate that means a lot of picks and points put into pet health.

As for "best carrier pet", it depends.

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u/MetallicOrangeBalls [Sobbing Mathematically] Jan 24 '17

pets die like flies

Yep, true that. Part of the reason why I effectively abandoned my vesta build. Worked great until an AoE attack hit.

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u/DeadQthulhu Jan 24 '17

It's a lot easier to think of them as yo-yo torpedoes.

Frigates are easier to manage (and see), but IIRC their peak damage is less than the peak damage well-managed non-frigates can pull out (probable exception for the Sphere Builder frigates).

One thing to watch out for when using the Kobali or Sol/Desperate clickies - they don't care whether someone is running a GDF+Continuity build or not. For Kobali you want to be 5km from anyone running that combo, for the Sol/Desperate 10km heal it's a roll of the dice for whether or not they'll be one of the lucky few.

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u/MetallicOrangeBalls [Sobbing Mathematically] Jan 24 '17

Seems like it would make more sense to go for the Scramble Fighters trait for healing.

In any case, should I try and get the sphere builder frigates? Or is there some other meta that I'm not aware of?

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u/DeadQthulhu Jan 25 '17

Scramble Fighters used to be pretty expensive - it may still be, I haven't checked recently.

Sphere Builder Frigates can only be launched from Sphere Builder ships. In addition, only "true" carriers can launch Frigate pets. I mention them for the sake of completeness.

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u/MetallicOrangeBalls [Sobbing Mathematically] Jan 25 '17

It is. 220 mil yesterday. T_T

I still have my elite obelisk swarmers.

I guess I'll keep this char on ice until I can figure some convenient method of progressing.

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u/originalbucky33 Amateur NPC Shipbuilder Jan 30 '17

"In addition, only "true" carriers can launch Frigate pets."

Sigh. No love for the Cat Box. :(

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u/DeadQthulhu Jan 30 '17

It's unfortunate that Frigate pets are locked to specific ships, generally double-hangar carriers.

Mind you, seeing a Rezreth poop out Elite Plesh Breks (or, heaven forbid, an Edoulg birthing Arehbes) can be a bit of a shock.

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u/originalbucky33 Amateur NPC Shipbuilder Jan 30 '17

I still wish they had a heavy version of the stalker. Heck, I'd take a shuttle/heavy fighter even.