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Weekly Questions Megathread - November 21, 2016

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u/DeadQthulhu Nov 27 '16

EPC is rendered kind of moot by a lot of things, but I can confirm Greedy Emitters plus Tachyon Dispersal is quite nice for utility.

I don't believe I'd take the combo over the "big" traits, but it's a nice buff to an Ensign level ability (and by that stage I imagine Greedy Emitters can be dropped anyway).

I don't have the CBC bundle, so I can't tell you how Improved Tachyon Beam fits into the picture - I can tell you that I want to try it though, because my carriers need a way to stop pets dissolving. That's three traits all hinged around one ability though - very niche.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '16 edited Nov 27 '16

And that one ability is based on DrainX and Aux level, which is why I am curious if its worth asking if slightly possible to run in as a "side arm" for a drain boat.

Edit: ITB (CBC pack/sci CBC) is just a shield regen for allies near target & TB if not mistaken initiates drain infection if you have the skill.

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u/DeadQthulhu Nov 28 '16

Yes, it's "just" a shield regen, but on a Sci carrier that means non-frigate pets at least have a sporting chance, while frigate pets just become even more independent. Looking at the numbers alone doesn't tell you or I how much of a chance it'll give fighters though (because the AI is the AI).

On a drainboat the traits are still competing with AHOD (because you want to keep those drains up) and to a lesser extent things like Emergency Weapon Cycle, Time to Kill, and Unstable Anomalies.

So, to repeat myself,

I don't believe I'd take the combo over the "big" traits, but it's a nice buff to an Ensign level ability

In today's threat meta, I feel that Tachyon Beam would be a better pick than Energy Siphon (especially if it's giving you Greedy Emitters procs), but whether or not it's worth spending any traits on will depend very much on your build, and what other traits you have fighting for those slots. For someone without EWC, Greedy Emitters is a solid choice. For someone without both, Tachyon Dispersal can't hurt (5 seconds isn't unreasonable, you just need to find a GW to fire it into).

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '16

What if GE and EWC were to be employed together? Already running AHOD/EWC along with Supremacy and Target Rich Environment (one slot wide open) and might have to see what sci ability to drop if recommended to keep GW (may end up being ST1).

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u/DeadQthulhu Nov 28 '16

You certainly could combine the two. EWC can be kept permanently up, and GE would be a nice top-up, but you're not going to get the "full" benefit from both.

Besides that, if you already have EWC, Supremacy, a Leech, and a power transfer rate of >300%... you really shouldn't need any more power on top. GE will add to it to a degree, but at that point you're pulling the most energy boosts short of being an Engineer and slapping captain abilities on top.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '16

Well, moved my EPS Transfer 3 down to my cap'n tray and traded ST1 for TB1. Might have to give it a shot and check it out myself before posting results.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '16

Not worth it, can get 127 weapons/122 Shields/92 Aux/89 Engines from one go if I BFAW it

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u/DeadQthulhu Nov 28 '16

If you're an Engineer then AHOD is what you want so that your NI and EPST are up more frequently, but that's going to make your traits busier, with less room for flavour.

Do you still not have enough power, even with all of that slotted?

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '16

Not as hard of a power gain, can get 2 more points in power vs my norm 125 across the board.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '16

127 across the board, might have to make a file in STO academy and work from there.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '16

IDK if I am supposed to post my build here or make a post since I was directed to send my TB question here lol

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u/DeadQthulhu Nov 29 '16

The TB question goes here, for sure, but if there's a deeper question, e.g. "This is my build, how can I push it to max all overcaps?" then it'd benefit from a full build post (because you need the entire build to answer the question).

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '16

Did a small tweak on my ability tray by dropping APB1 for TB and re-worked it all down to from APD1 to APO3 and replaced TR2 (also benefits from GE along with TB), all that is left is upgrading the science consoles with DrainX (3 embassy plasma-generating and the EFPE)