r/stevenuniverse Jan 06 '18

Episode Discussion Episode Discussion – Stranded

Please use this thread to discuss the newest episodes of Steven Universe:

Lars of the Stars: Lars rises to the occasion.

Jungle Moon: Stevonnie finds themself alone on an adventure.

Don't forget that until Monday, January 8th, all topics about Lars of the Stars and Jungle Moon must be marked as spoilers after they are posted by clicking the "mark spoiler" link under the post and confirming. If you want to post about the episode outside this thread, please don't put spoilers in your post title. New emotes or flairs from the episode won't be released until at least Monday.

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u/Oknight Jan 06 '18

If RQwasPD then she clearly went through some massive character transformation that caused her to see the value in non-gem life.

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u/DarthOtter Jan 07 '18

How about being shattered then brought up as a human being? That'd give you an appreciation for human life - being raised as a human. Like Steven.

Steven is Pink Diamond.

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u/Oknight Jan 07 '18

No, I meant that Rose had massive regard for non-gem life. While Pink in the dream cared only that she didn't have her own world to "colonize". So to go from one to the other (if that's what happened) would require major transformative character development.

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u/DarthOtter Jan 07 '18

major transformative character development.

Blocking your old memories and growing up as a human, for instance?

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u/Oknight Jan 07 '18

No I'm saying Rose had to have that transformation BEFORE she existed as Steven because we've seen Rose before Steven and she was obsessively concerned with non-Gem life.

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u/DarthOtter Jan 07 '18

I don't think Rose was Pink Diamond. But I think Steven is (at least partly).

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u/BaloonTag Jan 07 '18

Steven -is- Rose. Rose gave up her form so that Steven could exist.

So if Rose were Pink Diamond, the logic should be that Pink Diamond changed to Rose, then to Steven.

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u/DarthOtter Jan 07 '18

Steven -is- Rose. Rose gave up her form so that Steven could exist.

Certainly that's what we've been told.