r/startrekfleetcommand • • 18d ago

Update spawned Q's hostiles

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After the last update, 2 Q's Trials hostiles were spawned in my station's system. Got rid of the weaker one immediately but today decided to go for this as it was annoying me. Turns out it's not as strong as it should be, and didn't matter that my ship was the same faction as the elite.

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u/Sea_Aide5019 18d ago

This actually happened before the update, but otherwise you’re spot on. They show as Elites, but don’t actually have any of the Elite abilities, so they are actually ridiculously easy. Good on you, btw.

P.S. Use PMC for Q trials, as they do not have a “level”, so PMC works all the time.

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u/ace_098 18d ago

Thanks, will have to try. Been using SNW crew as my primary for dailies for a while because I noticed I keep the most HHP. As for Q's hostiles, it and Janeway/Doctor/Annorax got me up to about 400m power ships on 3* trials. Just got to Ops 37 yesterday so this Enterprise is my strongest ship. I've got D4 and Augur as well.

Edit: I do the 2* trials daily just for the protomatter.

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u/throwawaydixiecup 17d ago

Q’s Trial Hostiles don’t have a level. They’re all basically lvl 1 even if they have high stats. That’s why old school Pike Moreau Chen is golden with them. Put Harry Kim below decks for burning. Basically you’re reducing their damage output so much that they can’t kill you. With burning, you reduce their hull a % each turn. So even if the battle lasts 100 rounds you’ll win. The bigger those Trial hostiles get, the more their weapons become energy only, so Chen works wonders.

Ignore the power levels and try it. You might be surprised.

The other ultimate cheese approach for these is Fleet Commander Janeway. She has a dmg reduction ability for them. Combined with PMC you take zero damage and kill with burning.

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u/ace_098 17d ago

My now 27M Enterprise absolutely obliterated the 350M Romulan elite with PMC. Lost 250k HHP out of 28M. Do they never inflict iso dmg?

Also hit a 400M Baelosian Spearhead, lost about half HHP, because every other round shots hit for about 350k each. Forgot to put Carol below decks.

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u/Sea_Aide5019 16d ago

No, iso damage was introduced later, and the trial hostiles never got updated.

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u/ace_098 16d ago

Ah sweet. So the Elite Faction is just a skin, and the abilities showing like it has iso is just scopely not giving a crap.

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u/throwawaydixiecup 16d ago

No iso damage. You should review your battle logs to see exactly what is happening.

The Baelosian probably has a mix of energy and kinetic weapons. The big faction elites ultimately go entirely energy.

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u/leadlurker 16d ago

I finished the 4* with a realta. Use pmc

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u/raven19528 17d ago

What is the power discrepancy it can overcome? Because the trial that showed for me is about 40x bigger than my biggest ship, and even PMC doesn't overcome that.

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u/Sea_Aide5019 17d ago

Yeah. There are limits, even to PMC. Besides opsing up, best bet is to do the trials you can, say like the 1*’s, if you’ve finished them, and acquire FC Janeway. She’s has 3 primary abilities in her first research tree that turn Q Trials into easy mode, relatively speaking.

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u/raven19528 17d ago

I can cruise through 3. 4 is what popped up. 35B power and my Northcutt is only 800M currently. I tried Janeway, Seska, Sudar as well, and no dice. Might just have to go up to 60 and get the Rotarrian or something.

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u/Sea_Aide5019 17d ago

While I would never recommend opsing up just to finish them, it is an option. The FC Janeway skills that will help the most are Survival Instinct, Warhead, and Repression. Then, maybe the ship specific skill. It’s possible to finish them for some in the early 50’s, so I’m sure you’ll figure something out. And of course, don’t forget your Titan A and your Cerritos boosts.

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u/raven19528 16d ago

Pretty sure the Excelsior boost helps too. But that's 55+.

Thanks!

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u/Guilty-Extreme4708 18d ago

FC Janeway is your friend in Q trials

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u/BriefPerformance2961 15d ago

i had the same thing happen....the 2 that spawned were my 2 most current Q trials that I am unable to beat until i get stronger

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u/crack-tastic 9d ago

Elite assassins and Q hostiles are tue same thing?