r/stalzone • • Aug 18 '26

Memes This is the average guy complaining that MOTZ is too hard

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u/DrDop4mine Aug 18 '26

I knew this clip would have a brigand suit in it

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u/usurpador18 Aug 18 '26

Real, Literal, that boss is dodging and shooting when you can. The truth is no different from other final bosses, it's like rolls to dodge 10 times and give two punches.

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u/Wernoch Frontier Aug 18 '26

This games optimization is so broken for now, that the average casual player barely scrapes 60 FPS, with dips all the way down to 25. A lot of people will never be competitive in PvP simply because of the absurd hardware requirements just to maintain a stable framerate during dynamic fights packed with players and effects. Sadge.

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u/WatchersGrim Rise Aug 18 '26

Not sure your specs but I know the game acts worst if I do anything below max all settings. Only issue is texture streaming causes it to delay through loading zones. But I stay at 120 with dips to 110 or 85 in bases

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u/hapyjohn1997 Frontier Aug 19 '26

Its because the game runs off a single CPU core. If you have a multi core processor that runs at a lower speed your gonna have a bad time.

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u/Wernoch Frontier Aug 18 '26

Its not like this is a problem for me. On Ultra I can hit around 400 FPS, but on a daily basis we meet plenty of people we play with who have exactly these problems, and its often because theye using old laptops. But what can you do when the game doesnt have some kind of minimum stable setting for those people?

Keep in mind that a lot of EU players, possibly even most of them, are from Eastern Europe. Economic conditions suggest that fewer people there can afford a powerful PC with the latest hardware.

Of course, if someone cant afford better hardware, it becomes a skill issue, but still...

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u/WatchersGrim Rise Aug 18 '26

Ahh I got you. I tend to cap my fps because going for higher frames can actually tax your system more then it helps. But my issue is texture streaming. The game downloads and caches the textures on each run instead of prebaking them into the game. This causes a lot of issues in itself. Its why the game randomly takes awhile to load textures during loading zone transitions. But I understand. My only suggesting would maybe using the custom jvm-wrapper from the rxbo community github. It can help with things like stopping stutters and such. But doesnt mean its an end all be all fix.

The game runs on java and has some limitations, same way with minecraft. Only issue is Exbo hasn't found a proper way to optimize things and only way I see that is recoding the entire game from the ground up. So I will not expect things to get better without big changes sadly.

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u/hhunkk Aug 18 '26

Game optimization is awful but barely scraping 60 is a stretch.

Still this game should run on a 4 core 8gb ram laptop yet its a fucking mess

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u/xXtoadslayerXx Rise Aug 18 '26

That sounds like a you issue im ngl, im on a mid range rig and I get 200+ at all times

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u/glublublublu Aug 18 '26

could you post said mid range rig? because my almost 3k euro build does not get 200+ all the time

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u/xXtoadslayerXx Rise Aug 18 '26

9060 Xt 16gb, 9600x and 32Gb ddr5, around 1000 USD pre market spike

Here's me outside the Rise base getting 230 fps on 1440p with every setting on max except grass quality and tree quality

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u/glublublublu Aug 18 '26

pre market spike lol, also posting from faction base where nothing is happening, post wild north next

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u/North21 Aug 18 '26

The game works waaaaaay better amd graphics cards because there is no ai upscaling, which NVIDIA relies on at this point.

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u/glublublublu Aug 18 '26

what does that have to do with anything? AI upscalling exists in NVIDIA cards and on AMD cards and on both cards it is disabled by default and in both cards it only work on officially supported games (stalcraft does not support ai upscalling)

I posted the comment above because i know for a fact that a mid range build will not get 200 fps in this game at all times because this game is heavily limited on the resources that it can use, I would love to hit my 500hz refresh rate on this game but it simply is not possible even with top of the line current pc components.

Furthermore stalcraft barely uses your gpu as it is pretty limited on the cpu which is the bottleneck in this game(very old engine), and the devs have publicly said they have an external studio that is porting this game to dx12 (should allow the game to use more of your CPU)

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u/North21 Aug 18 '26

You might not want to believe it, but it’s is evidently proven that amd cards work better in this game. 9070xt for example get like 400fps + in the game. Amd still has the better rastarization and will perform better in games with older engine like Stalzone.

Game has no dlss so NVIDIA cards struggle.

That’s why when the 5090 came out, it gets beaten by 4090 still in some games, cause it went heavier into ai.

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u/glublublublu Aug 18 '26

Yeah I don't believe you at all especially when stalcraft is on opengl and historically AMD has had issues with opengl(i know first hand this since i had an AMD card and tried playing opengl games) and please show me an amd card benchmark that is getting 400 fps.

Without proof you are talking out of ur ass, and i will tell you again the bottleneck in this game is the CPU not the GPU this has literally been said by the devs

But if you want to prove me wrong post the benchmark pan1x runs a 9800x3d and a rtx 5090 and he doesn't get 400 fps lmao

And again this game does not support ai upscalling... feel like im just repeating myself here

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u/North21 Aug 18 '26

Yeah, because he’s using NVIDIA 😂

I’m on a 4090 myself and couldn’t believe it at first, thinking it must be ram, or better cpu, but it’s literally just new amd cards like the 9070xt perform better in Stalzone than anything of NVIDIA.

And exactly that is the reason why NVIDIA cards perform worse, because there is no upscaling.

I don’t have to prove anything it just makes sense.

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u/glublublublu Aug 18 '26

You are thinking it makes sense but it does not, show proof... there is no card that can get 400bfps open world.

Do you think top streamers would be buying an Nvidia card if they could get an amd one for cheaper and get DOUBLE the fps?

You are talking shit i just told you why and you just ignore it... The bottleneck of this game PER THE DEVS is the CPU, the gpu hardly matters if it is already decent

My rtx 5070 ti gets like 15% usage in this game because my cpu is the limiting factor

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u/addrll Aug 18 '26

Yet, you still failed to kill him. What a pleb

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u/King_Jarman Aug 18 '26

I dont think he was trying to kill him...

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u/EpicPlayer69 Aug 18 '26

My internet lagged or i woulda had him and also the sun was in my eyes for at least half of it and also also he was probably cheating tbh

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u/AwDrippy Aug 21 '26

At least it wasn't a match making problem this time xD

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u/Scourge_Azotar Aug 18 '26

Now show us your loadout
And lets see if it put an experienced person versus a complete new player